Well went on a 4 return road trip and picked up my very first Gravely riders !!! I know I have my work cut out for me to restore them but I have an old lad who lives 10minutes away who knows these things inside and out.Retired mechanic from hydro but is a member of several vintage Lawn & Garden tractor clubs. I will keep the 816 but more than likely sell off the 812 to help pay for the 816 rebuild. Or do I just keep them both ?? I will post restoration picks as it goes along.