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I got a pair of these CC weights this morning. Can anyone tell me what size carriage bolts and washers I need and save me a few trips to TSC?

I checked with Partstree and they don't seem to have the parts list for those.

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ray the sears man
you need 1/2 bolts and how long dependes on your rims
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Jeff in PA
I purchased these 62 lb gilson/ward wheel weights and used 1/2-13NC by 8" long carriage bolts to mount them on my 10.50-12 rims on my 125.
( carriage bolts are round head with a square shank under the head to keep them from spinning )
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When I bought the wheel weight kit from a dealer earlier this year, the kit provided threaded rod and mentioned that it was for either version of the wheels that came on the tractor. I assume you have the style with just the 4 holes for the carriage bolts, since that was what you were looking for. All of the hardware in the kit was 1/2", with 1/2-13 being the thread. I bought extra hardware for the kit, including additional washers, nylok nuts, flat washers and red locktite.

The wheels on my 3225 have the little triangle shaped cutouts, so I had to use these goofy angled pieces with holes in them to mount the wheel weights. If I had the other style and could use carriage bolts, I would thread them to the base, add a washer and nut, then put the weight on. It'd make the bolts act like a stud then to just bolt the weight to. Since I have the other wheels, I basically did the same thing with the threaded rod, nylok nuts and red locktite while using the goofy angle pieces. Even those needed work to make fit right...
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blown4pt3 said:
When I bought the wheel weight kit from a dealer earlier this year, the kit provided threaded rod and mentioned that it was for either version of the wheels that came on the tractor. I assume you have the style with just the 4 holes for the carriage bolts, since that was what you were looking for. All of the hardware in the kit was 1/2", with 1/2-13 being the thread. I bought extra hardware for the kit, including additional washers, nylok nuts, flat washers and red locktite.

The wheels on my 3225 have the little triangle shaped cutouts, so I had to use these goofy angled pieces with holes in them to mount the wheel weights. If I had the other style and could use carriage bolts, I would thread them to the base, add a washer and nut, then put the weight on. It'd make the bolts act like a stud then to just bolt the weight to. Since I have the other wheels, I basically did the same thing with the threaded rod, nylok nuts and red locktite while using the goofy angle pieces. Even those needed work to make fit right...
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And it was this same style? That's just weird.

I thought all 2000s and 3000s shared the same wheel with the exception that 2000s were 5-lug and 3000s were 4-lug. I shopped for an extra pair of rims for a long time and never saw any triangle holes.

Anyway, if that's the standard mounting hardware, I'll have to just drag a rim and weight down to TSC and test fit.
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JDfiles
The proper size is 1/2"-13 x 9", BUT Tractor Supply only carries 8" and 10" sizes. That should be true for both 2000s and 3000s, but I can't verify that myself.

I don't have a deep well socket in that size, so I guess I'll warm up the cutting tool and grinder.
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blown4pt3
Yep, same wheel weights as you, sounds like different wheels though. Here are some pictures I've found. The cutouts are kind of triangle in shape. Would have taken pictures of mine but would have to take the weights off to do so.

Anyway, good to know on the length of the bolts. One reason I want the different wheels is to do exactly what you are doing. The wheels I have only use 2 of the threaded rods/bolts to hold them to the wheels. 4 would be preferred.

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blown4pt3 said:
Yep, same wheel weights as you, sounds like different wheels though. Here are some pictures I've found. The cutouts are kind of triangle in shape. Would have taken pictures of mine but would have to take the weights off to do so.
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I haven't seen anything like that. Here's a picture of a 2000 rim I found online and my 3000 rim for comparison.

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jsoluna
blown4pt3 said:
Here are some pictures I've found. The cutouts are kind of triangle in shape.
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I've seen 3000 Series Cubs with those wheels, in fact we have a set of those sitting around at the shop right now. Never occurred to me how much of a pain it would be to mount standard wheel weights to rims with those triangle shaped holes!
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JDfiles said:
I haven't seen anything like that. Here's a picture of a 2000 rim I found online and my 3000 rim for comparison.
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You should just be able to just use carriage bolts for those rims (since they fit in the square holes on that rim.) This is what I did to mount my Bolens' Cast-Iron Wheel Weights on my GT2544 (I got a lot of flack here for the Bolens, but I liked the cast-iron weights over the plastic ones! :) )

For my particular weights I used 5.5" x 1/2" carriage bolts with a 3/8" fender washer, 1/2" lock washer, and 1/2" nut. There was still a quite few threads exposed (but the 5" bolts would have been slightly short.)

What I suggest you do is to measured with the weight (holding it in place) from the inside of the rim to the outside of the wheel weight. You should be able to take a really good educated guess on the length. Also if you go with locknuts you might be able to go with shorter bolts.
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ericdube said:
(I got a lot of flack here for the Bolens, but I liked the cast-iron weights over the plastic ones! :) )
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Since the logo isn't raised, you could have just filled it in with Bondo before painting it. :fing32:
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JDfiles said:
Since the logo isn't raised, you could have just filled it in with Bondo before painting it. :fing32:
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LOL! And I did fill in a number of the casting mistakes (due to holes and defects) in the cast-iron after I sandblasted them! However, I never really though about filling in the logo in the process since it didn't really bother me.

Too late now I guess, but if I ever change tractors maybe I'll look for another set without the logos in the casting (they're out there if you look for them - almost bought a set before I got these but the gentlemen who had them was located just too far from my house, which is why I settled on these.)

Good luck with mounting up your weights!
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jsoluna said:
I've seen 3000 Series Cubs with those wheels, in fact we have a set of those sitting around at the shop right now. Never occurred to me how much of a pain it would be to mount standard wheel weights to rims with those triangle shaped holes!
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Aside from the wheel weight only being retained in two places (which I know should be enough because it is simply holding it in, the weight rests on the wheel), it was and is less than an entertaining experience if you remove the weights and the rods.

Hopefully we will get some feedback of how the bolts work out. I'm about to order a full set of wheels for the 3225 and if the replacement wheels are the solid type (hopefully), then that will determine which wheel gets which tire. One set will be turfs, the other will be tru powers/v61s.
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jsoluna
For what it's worth, my 2186 has the solid one-piece style rim as pictured above in post #8, picture on the right. Is that the style of wheel you're hoping for?
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jsoluna said:
For what it's worth, my 2186 has the solid one-piece style rim as pictured above in post #8, picture on the right. Is that the style of wheel you're hoping for?
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Likewise, there's a 2206 for sale in Cincy that has the 4-lug rims as well.

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/grd/2753327911.html

So apparently, my theory is bogus. The photo you mentioned is the rim set I just bought this past summer, so I think that is the current style.

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jsoluna
Wow, nice 2206!!
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blown4pt3
JDfiles, any luck on mounting these up?

jsoluna, do you see many with the wheels with the cut outs? It seems the solid wheels are the latest style, but it would be nice to know for sure.
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blown4pt3 said:
JDfiles, any luck on mounting these up?
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I just cut the 10" bolts down to a reasonable size.
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jsoluna
Some of the Commercial line of Cubs still use those wheels with the triangle shaped cutouts, like the Tanks. If the 3000 Series were still around, they'd probably be using them too. New 2000 Series still uses the one-piece designs.
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For what it's worth, here's another for sale - 3140 in Coshocton. It has the goofy triangle rims, too.

http://zanesville.craigslist.org/grd/2777126380.html
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