[aczlan]

Looking at changing the well worn turfs on the GT3200 for some more aggressive tires.
I have seen "ag" tires put on, but being as this tractor mows the lawn and plows the sidewalk at a hotel, they aren't ideal.
I am looking at something like the Carlisle All Trail as I think it would work better for plowing/blowing the sidewalk.
The OEM tires are 24x10.5-12, but I have heard that they appear to be the same size as a 23x10.5x12 aftermarket and the alltrails are only available in a 23 and 25" diameter.

Anyone put a 25x10.5-12 tire on a GT3200 with a 60" deck?

Thanks

Aaron Z

 

[CRE1992]

If you put on 25" tires, you may alter the deck pitch, which would result in a poor cut for the deck. Though it may be possible to adjust the deck to compensate for it, I do not know. I had Carlisle Tru Power Ags in 23x10.5x12's and they tore up the turf less than the turf tires do to less slippage. I am a fan of ag tires. Some people will disagree, and some will agree. I had no regrets with them.

 

[aczlan]

If you put on 25" tires, you may alter the deck pitch, which would result in a poor cut for the deck. Though it may be possible to adjust the deck to compensate for it, I do not know. I had Carlisle Tru Power Ags in 23x10.5x12's and they tore up the turf less than the turf tires do to less slippage. I am a fan of ag tires. Some people will disagree, and some will agree. I had no regrets with them.

I have looked at the Ags, but my inlaws have a BX2660 with Turfs and a B7500 with R4 tires.
The R4s get better traction on the grass, but the Turfs get better traction on the pavement.
I am inclined to think that the extra lugs/surface area on the ground of the All Trails will give more traction on pavement than the Ags, so I think I will get the 23" version of the All Trail tires.
I realize that this will lose a little dirt/turf traction over ags, but the well worn turfs on it dont have much of a problem on the grass

Aaron Z

 

[CRE1992]

We (my family) have R4's on our John Deere 790, and needless to say when we need new tires, ags are going on them. If you use wheel weights, the ags will have no problem on the pavement... We have all trails on our john deere gator, and they always seem to leak on the bead, not 1 tire but 4 tires out of the 6 that are on it do. We will not be putting all trails back on that when the tires are due to be replaced also. The R4's are also terrible in the snow. The gator also has tubes in 4 out of the 6 tires to stop the leaks.

 

[aczlan]

We (my family) have R4's on our John Deere 790, and needless to say when we need new tires, ags are going on them. If you use wheel weights, the ags will have no problem on the pavement...

We have not had any real issues with the R4s on the B7500 other than traction on the pavement. They have ~700 hours on them and still have quite a bit of traction. Time will tell what they get replaced with.

We have all trails on our john deere gator, and they always seem to leak on the bead, not 1 tire but 4 tires out of the 6 that are on it do. We will not be putting all trails back on that when the tires are due to be replaced also. The R4's are also terrible in the snow. The gator also has tubes in 4 out of the 6 tires to stop the leaks.

Good to know. I have had enough problems with leaking tires that I am thinking of getting tubes put in when the tires are changed (and possibly having them filled). Not a whole lot more up front, but less hassle down the road. Having the tires filled might mean that we can drop one set of weights.

Thanks

Aaron Z

 

[lonnyb]

Heres what I use on the rear of my 3235
Swamp Fox. 24-9-12

I have no traction problems with these tires.

 

[aczlan]

What size deck do you have? I think the larger ones will clear the fenders, but I dont know about the 60" deck.

Aaron Z

 

[lonnyb]

I have a 42 inch mowing deck and its on this cub.

582-special getting blades sharpened.

I do not mow with my 3235, as it is my multi purpose tractor

I purchased a mowing deck with the tractor but sold it back to the dealer a month later when I decided that I did not realy need a 54" deck.

I replaced the 23-10.50X12's in the last 2 photos with the swamp fox tires as the 23"s lowered the rearend to much.

 

[ShredSled]

I have a 42 inch mowing deck and its on this cub.

582-special getting blades sharpened.

I do not mow with my 3235, as it is my multi purpose tractor

I purchased a mowing deck with the tractor but sold it back to the dealer a month later when I decided that I did not realy need a 54" deck.

I replaced the 23-10.50X12's in the last 2 photos with the swamp fox tires as the 23"s lowered the rearend to much.

Interesting about the ATV tires. Seems the selection is a lot larger and most prices fairly reasonable... I'll have to keep that in mind this summer.

But what brand were your 23 X 10.5 X 12 AG tires? Are you positive they actually lowered the rear? The stock oe turf tires measure out to be more of a 23 than a 24 like they are listed as... or are you comparing to your taller atv tires?

And what do you have up front in the photos? Ribs? Which ones/size?
Looks good, you have quite the line up of tractors there!

 

[onelow_mazda]

I use a Ventrac 4231 tractor at my work that has the Carlisle HD field trax on it and all I can say is WOW!!! I have no need for chains or wheel weights in snow on pavement and concrete and the traction on turf is amazing. Although, do understand that this tractor is 4wd and plenty heavy enough as is. The tires clean themselves out very easily in snow and mud but do not damage the grass. They are basically the same as the All Trails.

 

[jsoluna]

The Swamp Fox ATV tires are some real diggers. I had a buddy of mine give me these, and I had em mounted on the 3100 Series rear rims (narrower than 3200). The tires are the same as lonnyb's listed above, but the lugs are way thicker. Size is 27x9x12. They clear fenders by about 1/3 inch! They look a little goofy, I know...

Not sure about the deck yet, but I can tell you that they work EXTREMELY well in mud and snow - they will actually out-pull my 2186 with loaded Power-Trac ag tires.

 

[ShredSled]

wow, that is STUFFED! Almost need some fender trimming!

I didn't know the 3100 series rims were narrower than 3200? How would I be able to tell? Have the width dimensions handy? Wonder if somehow mine got the wider rims because mine stick out from the fender a bit and came with 10.5 wide tires...

 

[jsoluna]

The 3184 I pulled rims/tires off of had 23x9.50x12 rears and 16x6.50x8 fronts.

The 3205 had 24x10.50x12 rears with wider rims and 18x8.50x8 fronts.

 

[ShredSled]

The 3184 I pulled rims/tires off of had 23x9.50x12 rears and 16x6.50x8 fronts.

The 3205 had 24x10.50x12 rears with wider rims and 18x8.50x8 fronts.

huh, that's wild!
Well mine was almost right between then. Still has the old factory CC “Turf Pro“ ires on it, in 24 X 10.50 X 12 Rear, and 16 X 7.5 X 8 Front

I was more wondering if the actual Rim width dimensions differred on some?


And also this rings up another question I've been reasearcching and asking insome other threads here.. If I went to a larger size front, looking at vredestein v61 in 18 X 8.5 X 8 over my stock 16's on the same rim would it cause any issues?
Seeing you list that one of the 3000series were already like that helps answer, but others on this forum have said I might have issues with my deck or other attachments...

and also, on rear could I go bigger than 23 to maybe help level it out? Or best for tranny to stick with 23? Looking into some AG tires...

...again, thanks for the help Jsoluna! and everyone else here!

 

[jsoluna]

The front rims will take either a 6.50, 7.50, or 8.50 wide tire. The 6.50 just don't bulge any sidewall at all, while the 7.50 and 8.50 will look a little "fatter" as the sidewall curls over the rim bead.

If you up the front tire size a few inches in height, to help keep the deck level, you should do the same in the back. So if you went from a 16x7.50x8 to an 18x8.50x8 (V61s are a great choice, BTW), I'd go to a 25 inch rear tire. Your trans can handle a few inches of taller tire, I wouldn't worry there.



on a side note.....the 54" deck will clear the 27x9x12 Swampers!

 

[CADplans]

This is the 18x7.50x8 I put on the front of my Cub. The tread width is identical to the 16x6.50x8.

The "7.50" dimension is the "bulge" measurement and has nothing to do with the tread.

The 18" tall rear tire "leveled" my tractor after I had added taller rear tires.

This picture is interesting because it shows 3 different types of tires;
bulging side front tires
ATV rear tires
trailer tires with little or no sidewall bulge versus given tire dimension.

 

[ShredSled]

The front rims will take either a 6.50, 7.50, or 8.50 wide tire. The 6.50 just don't bulge any sidewall at all, while the 7.50 and 8.50 will look a little "fatter" as the sidewall curls over the rim bead.

If you up the front tire size a few inches in height, to help keep the deck level, you should do the same in the back. So if you went from a 16x7.50x8 to an 18x8.50x8 (V61s are a great choice, BTW), I'd go to a 25 inch rear tire. Your trans can handle a few inches of taller tire, I wouldn't worry there.



on a side note.....the 54" deck will clear the 27x9x12 Swampers!

I only use a 48" deck, that way I can squeeze between many of the trees in my yard! But good to know.

So, you think I'd be good with some V61's in 18 X 8.5 X 8 without changing rear tires for awhile??
I'm about to order the front V's + tubes from millertire pretty soon, but will not get the rear AG's until summer probably.


...and on a side note, I don't think I'll go with tall swampers, haha, although I'm sure it'd be a site to see, but then I have to ask, would 26 X 12 X 12 AG's fit on the rear and function ok? Or is stock rim too narrow? I just saw them on a classic cub set-up with the fat V61's up front, and a bunch of JD's also, elsewhere on this site and it looks so **** mean!
...sorry to keep bugging you with all these questions, haha... :trink39:

 

[jsoluna]

I know that if the 27 x 9 x 12 ATVs were any wider, they'd rub fender. That's why I mounted them on the narrow rear rims too - you'll notice that the tires don't hang out past the fender. But that's an ATV tire, which has a different design.

An AG tire at 26 x 12 x 12 may work. I think the rims would probably handle the extra width over a 10.50, and being an inch less tall it would probably fit under the fenders. The 3000 Series have a deep overhang on the fender lip, the inner well of the fenders is quite open though. Getting tires to clear the overhang is the hard part.