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Legacy (NonXL) Repower begins with pics

Pretty straight forward, easy disconnect on all the wiring/fuel line - everything is SAE except the hex bolts on the back where the drive
line connects and that took a 6mm Allen.

The new engine should be here in 5 days.






 

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wow. keep us posted. what engine did you have? How many hours on it? What are you replacing it with? What broke on the current engine?
 

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wow. keep us posted. what engine did you have? How many hours on it? What are you replacing it with? What broke on the current engine?
It's a Kohler Command CH25S 68583 Series, no longer available and replacing it with Kohler Command CH730S (supposed to be same engine with some upgrades).

I ran out of gas while mowing or that is what the fuel gauge said but when it shut down it backfired bigtime, it has backfired before but nothing like this time. Engine would crank but lope, finished the yard with my craftsman and because I had to leave town I just hauled it to the Shadetree Mechanics for him to look at it. When I returned he said he replaced a bent rod and hadn't gone anyfurther because the valves weren't opening. I've had some oil consumption problems but always kept it full so it was going to need an overhaul but when we started adding up the parts - possible crank/pistons/heads and options mini-block/short block and not knowing what else is inside lurking to break I bit the bullet and just went to the new engine. When winter comes around I'll break it down and see what the real damage is...as you can see the burnt carbon in this exhaust port it was pretty nasty on that bank, not so bad on the other.



Oh - the engine has 929 hrs. according to the hr meter, I've always taken care of it but I bought it used 2 1/2 years ago with 685 hours - I paid $2600 as it sits in this picture. I think the previous owner suspected engine issues but I managed to baby it this long.

 

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Who knows what the previous owner did to it? Maybe ran it out of oil or overheated it. I think you got a decent deal on a Legacy for $2600!
Nice pictures, keep 'em coming!
 

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Who knows what the previous owner did to it? Maybe ran it out of oil or overheated it. I think you got a decent deal on a Legacy for $2600!
Nice pictures, keep 'em coming!
I agree, even if I had to drive 300 miles to get it, not a lot of Simplicity's in this area and the dealer that is here was no help on info or parts, they probably had to take the line on with the big tractors. I ordered a belt and I think fuel filters from them, never got a call - never got a call, finally called them and told me - OH! The parts haven't come in yet! That was after 4 weeks.

I buy a lot of stuff online just because even though we travel alot I don't have the time or space to just pull in anywhere.

The previous owner I think actually had bought it and just resold it probably from an auction but I knew the 3 point/wheel weights/chains added enough value to it to make the risk and I don't regret that decision - 2 1/2yrs later I know everything else has been serviced and is tight although I could use an ignition switch as this one is touchy - you have to hold your tongue just right.
 

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Agree with the great price. I paid $ 2,800 for my identical Agco Allis with the front dozer blade and auxilary hydraulics. No 3 point or wheel weights and about 800 hours on the engine. I also had to drive about 350 miles each way to get it but well worth it.

I now have about 925 hours on the engine - hope that is not a bad omen.

In my case I have very little oil use (a slight seapage on the left hand side - odd enough all the last 4 Kohlers I have had had this). Compression is good on both cylinders and it actually runs smoother and better than my 450 hour 20hp unit on my Legacy. As you can see in my avatar I am lucky enough to have two of them.
 

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Agree with the great price. I paid $ 2,800 for my identical Agco Allis with the front dozer blade and auxilary hydraulics. No 3 point or wheel weights and about 800 hours on the engine. I also had to drive about 350 miles each way to get it but well worth it.

I now have about 925 hours on the engine - hope that is not a bad omen.

In my case I have very little oil use (a slight seapage on the left hand side - odd enough all the last 4 Kohlers I have had had this). Compression is good on both cylinders and it actually runs smoother and better than my 450 hour 20hp unit on my Legacy. As you can see in my avatar I am lucky enough to have two of them.
I hope it isn't a bad Omen either Alan, doubt if it is, July has just been one of those months for me and the engine was just one of many candles on the cake - besides anyone lucky enough to own two has me beat --- then again I hopefully:praying: won't need that much snow moving equipment ever!! lol

Have a good one - the DW just said she'd meet me in the shop and buy me a :trink40:

Hopefully it's not more news :Stop:
 

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I hope it isn't a bad Omen either Alan, doubt if it is, July has just been one of those months for me and the engine was just one of many candles on the cake - besides anyone lucky enough to own two has me beat --- then again I hopefully:praying: won't need that much snow moving equipment ever!! lol

Have a good one - the DW just said she'd meet me in the shop and buy me a :trink40:

Hopefully it's not more news :Stop:
Well I hope you did not get any more bad news.

Last winter was a record winter and I needed all the equipment and still wished for more. I actually had so much snow that I had to take the snow blower off and put the FEL back on to literally dig myself out. I had 6' tall drifts across my driveway.

Once I got the blower all working though I really rarely used the Agco with the blade. However in the summer here I still love to have two as I leave the FEL on the Legacy and use the Agco for mowing. That means that I put very few hours on the Legacy so hopefully it can last quite a while. I put around 50 hours on per year mowing and pulling carts around so I am hoping for 1500+ hour life span out of the Kohler. Don't really know if it makes a difference but I have switched to all synthetic oil as the air cooled engines really get hot when mowing for 2-3 hours straight.

I ended up with two of these tractors as I was lucky enough to get and fix up 4 Craftsman GT5000 tractors I could sell which gave me a little extra spending money and I found the tractors at a good price.
 

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I had a 1998 with something like 2200 or 2500 hours and it still purred like a kitten. Not sure if the motor was touched or not... I guess you either get a good one or you don't...
 

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Alan, I'm dripping with envy - FEL, choice of mowers, dozer. My backup is a Craftsman LT1000 and I have about 3 acres to mow, not so bad on Legacy as it takes about 3 hrs, good 5.5 on Craftsman and what a difference in the appearance. Just got email from Ope's and the engine was shipped today so I should get it Tues/Wed. The DW didn't have any bad news just thought I needed to get away and she was right.

The toyhauler trailer below we bought new in '06, right after we bought it I had a Trailer Alignment specialist align the axles, they were off 5/8". Assuming :fing20: that was taken care of we proceeded to pull it about 50,000 miles with nothing but doing the bearings/brakes and numerous sets of tires. Finally last fall an axle shackle busted while going to a National, standed me on I-70 overnite on a weekend with no way to repair it properly. I finally managed to piece something together to get me 150 miles to another axle specialist. To make a long story short he screwed it up even worse than the 5/8" believe it or not, by moving the front shackle up an inch but failed to compensate that for the center and rear shackles. When I returned home as we are off in the winter I started to check measurements :banghead3 ... the smartest man I ever knew once told me "Son if you want it done right do it yourself!". I then cut the axles/springs and shackles off to the frame and started with all new heavier axles/springs/shackles and brakes. It tows like a dream - problems solved with trailer. :Stop: Then the truck decided to hailout this Spring - after two weeks of diagnosis -- High Pressure Oil Pump, it was one of those moments where it almost made me trade but with the economy being what it is I just couldn't shell out $35K for a new truck and with everything else that's been going on I'm glad I didn't because I would probably be living it that trailer. :maddd:
Everyone has their problems including me - whoever said things happen in threes forgot to mention the subrule that every 50 years or so it happens in 30's. LOL

As Burntime says sometimes you either get a good one or you don't... in my case you guys are probably lucky you're not anywhere's near me...I don't think it's contagious but it sure isn't pretty to watch!:trink40:
 

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Got home Monday after a harrowing weekend (that's a total different story) to a phone message that the trucking company had tried to deliver my new engine but was unable to because of bridges being out and water over highways and probably wouldn't deliver until late in the week. After a couple calls I explained that we had just driven that highway and they said it would be delivered on Tuesday!!

Sure enough here it is!! And is it a beauty build date of 7/2/10 (1 month 1 day old) I ordered it on 7/27/10 - OPEengines did an awesome job at a great price.

....the LT1000 in the background, making a sigh of relief that it doesn't have to tackle the 3+ acres again...the old Kohler down below (we'll see later just how terminal it's condition is, salvageable or scrap)...and yes that is the refreshment cabinet in the background.

It was 111 heat index here today so I worked a little slower and took my time making sure everything was just right..

...No I didn't go to bed without hooking it up and running it....whooohaaaa... it sounds sweet and is strong as a horse (actually 25 lol), I painted the exhaust with hightemp and will post some more Finale photo's later today.
 

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Photo with everything hooked up (less the hood of course), I mowed the place yesterday - it's amazing how you don't notice a gradual decrease in performance, repowered the Legacy of course did awesome. Just like new as it should, I've seen where some on other posts discussed fuel consumption after replacing their carbs. I think mine went up -- really, well maybe that was because I was searching all over the place for something more to mow! :trink40:

 

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Great job on the swap out!
 
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