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I finally bought a set of LB seal changing tools and WOW what a difference. I can change a lower crank seal in under 10 minutes now. Before, I had to remove the blade and muffler, remove the engine from the deck, pick the seal out with a small screwdriver. Then lay the new seal in and tap it gently with a piece of PVC pipe and make sure it was even. Then replace the exhaust gasket and put everything back together. Now, only the muffler has to come off of D and F engines...V engines don't even need the muffler removed! I haven't tried a C yet. This tool is awesome. Slide it on the crank, give it a bop with a hammer and screw it into the gap between the crank and the seal. Then tighten the bolt down in the middle and it pulls the seal right out. The Installation tool is pretty cool as well and sets the seals at a certain depth so there's no more guesswork. Well worth what I paid. I just wish I could have found them sooner. How many of you guys have these tools? If you don't, you need to buy them if you can find them. I just wanted to pass on the good word about these tools and share my happiness.:thThumbsU