Hey bluegill2, How is the L3800 working for you? I've looked at one two times now and other model tractors in same hp range and I'm liking the Kubota the best right now. Two different dealers are quoting different $ amt for the same tractor. It is plain jane gear drive with quick detach loader. Naturally the lower price one is about 100 miles farther away. If I bought from the distant dealer I wonder if the closer guy would honor warranty work?