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Hello all; first John Deere and first thread on the site.

I was lucky enough to have someone give me an older 210 (not running; sitting for a couple years). I tinkered around with it for awhile replacing the points, coil, condensor, spark plug, battery but no luck. I had someone look at it ad all they did was tweak it a little bit and it started running like new. Amazing machine

Also came with the mower was 2 decks not attached. One is what I believe is a 46in 3 blade that was hooked up along time ago but doesn't seem to spin freely. The other one is from a JD 180 that died and is in good working condition except it needs a new motor to deck belt.

My question is will the deck from the 180 fit and if so what belt do I need to use as a replacement

If not what do I need to do to get the other on working

Thanks for your help
 

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For the one not spinning freely, it can't hurt to pump a lot of fresh grease in everything and spin it up a bit to get things relubed. If it's REALLY tight, you might first remove the zirks and spray into each shaft with some really good penetrating spray (not WD, a real one). then turn the blades a little, Let it sit overnight and reapply and turn it a better bit, and keep doing this for a few days, spin it a bit more each time, this will help clean up inside around the shaft. Then put the heavy long term grease in and see what kinda life it still has.

As for compatability I'm not sure since I'm not familiar with either tractor. Are the decks the same size? I recall reading on another thread recently that with different size decks the belt guides may need to be different even if it all hooks up okay otherwise? Obviously the belt will need to be a different length. I would think it should be pretty easy to compare the mounting systems just by looking at the decks side by side and maybe measuring a few mount widths/distances? I would think power wise that the 210 should handle anything that a 180 had on it though as long as it hooks up.
 

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I don’t know which decks went on the 180, or if the mounting system is compatible without some major fabricating. Hopefully someone who’s familiar with them will chime in.
*With respect to the existing deck for the 210, it’s a model 47 (which was the large deck). Odds are one of two things is the culprit for it not turning. Either the idler is seized, or more likely, one of more of the spindles is rusted up. Take the blade-to-blade belt off and see exactly what isn’t turning. You may want to remove the idler and grease it up while you’re in there anyway. My model 47 deck has no grease fittings, and I’m not sure if any of them ever came with them.


If one or more of the spindles are seized, you’ll probably have to replace the bearings (which is not at all difficult). Since you have to disassemble the spindle to replace the bearings anyway, you may as well see if you can free it/them with some grease. It won’t hurt to try, and worst case, you have them taken apart and ready for new bearings anyway.


There are excellent parts diagrams on JDParts.com. Go there, click to search the catalog, enter “47” for the model number, select the mid-mount mower deck, and search the alphabetical listings for spindle assemblies. That site is a great source of information if you don’t have service manuals.
 

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Thanks you for the help so far. This is great info.

A couple more questions...

Since it came without the deck attached; Can you explain how to re-mount the deck to the tractor? I see the deck hangers but I am unsure how the front connects. There are also two metal brackets the are bolted on the deck with and spring loaded pin. And then there are two more brackets just like it near the front of the tractor.

Also what size belt is it to go from the deck to the PTO pulley?

I think my deck is the 39in. It has 3 blades and looks just like the diagram above.
 

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79 inch on the belt,just got one yesterday,best to got jd belt but they did not have one.You will need a draft plate for the front (ebay).The brackets you see attach to the bracket hanging down on the frame,you will need 2lift brackets (one with an adjuster) and they hook on to the deck.The belt is a booger to get on,after I get the dack all attached to my tractor I put my floor jack under the tensioner wheel in the front and lift it high to strectch the spring giving the belt all the slack it can get and the belt goes on good.
 

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I have the draft plate. Do the spring loaded pins on the deck somehow attach to the draft plate of do the bold on below where the black roller is?
 

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Look under the frame and you will see 2 hangers with holes for the spring loaded bars. Pull out on the spring loaded pins, turn them so the lock in place and hook them in the hole.the draft plate does hook to the holes by the roller.
 

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Good luck with your 210. You can find all the parts diagrams if you look for C210G in tractor parts catalogs online like john-deere-parts-direct.com. I have a 1979 210 and love the cut it gets. having problems with the variator right now but I think i have it licked and will be back to mowing. You will have better luck with the 214 deck than the 180 deck for hook up, there is a pully up under the frame that will not line up correctly on the 180 deck.
 

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Make sure your adjuster pins are the correct height the two on the inside of the of your deck (2 cotter pins) put blocks of wood under each end of the deck makes it easier to attach, the two spring loaded adjustment bars go on the inside of the bolted area so you can see the bolt head as you look at it.

The front should have an adjustment spring on it, it has a knob on the front loosen it up all the way, this will help you when you attach the belt from the deck to the PTO. Look at picture 1-32.

The front bar (Draft Plate)should be a black fork like with two arms on it spray some PB blaster on the spings so it will be easier to pull them back. this is a picture of the front fork.

Go here will help alot

http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/com.deere.u90490.partscatalog.view.servlets.HomePageServlet_Alt
 

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I do not believe the deck for a 180 will fit on the 210. Any deck from a 110,112,210,212, 214, and 216 will interchange however the draft arms might be a different length and the front brackets might need to be adjusted different to level the deck. Also they might require a different length primary drive belt. For example there 3 different length belts for a 39" deck.
 

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OK I am going to try this as soon as I get a chance and Ill let you know how it goes.
You guys are awesom; thanks for the quick response.

If I am reading this correctly there are 4 mounting points?

1) the 2 brackets that hang down from the lift/lower lever; one has an L-shaped adjustable section the other is just a stud w/ cotter pin. These hook mid deck and directly to the deck.

2) the draft plate with the U-shaped tie rod looking mounts get bolted on either side of the roughly 8inch roller on the lower part of the the front of the deck

3) two spring metal brackes about 12-14inch length w/ spring loaded pins that mount to the long spring loaded U-shaped portion on the upper part of the front of the deck. The ones you can pull by hand above the front deck roller

4) then there are two metal brackets with the same sprin loaded pin that are about 12-14inch but these are bolted to the deck itself. Im not sure where these mount to?

I appreciate your help
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you can't make a post about a new tractor and not post pictures!
 

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Look at post # 10, 11b,7,and the draft plate are the only mounting points.
 

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p51fspk I could not get the picture to load. Could you repost or maybe PM or email them?

As far as pictures of my tractor I will have those posted ASAP. Hopefully this weekend.

I realized that I have 2 pairs of the longer brackets; one set was on the tractor for storage. I got under it tonight and lubed everything up really well to make it easier to install everything. I believe I locate all the attachment points and understand the concept well. I well try installing after I purchase a belt.
 

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I think Im going to replace the deck belt while Im at it does anyone know what size that belt is or a model number. I have the repair manual but it does not say anything about it.
 

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Worked a little bit this weekend cleaning up parts and removing rust. I finally got the deck attached.

I put a new blade belt on I believe it was 88 inches. I just to the old one to Tractor Supply and matched up the lengths. The part number is M40223. I also bought 3 different belts for the PTO hook up.

The John Deere online parts resource shows 3 belts which are M47043 79.30x1/2, M47765 84.00x1/2, and M47766 80.10x1/2.

I will be installing it later this week so ill let you know which one I wind up using.

When going through all the pulleys on the deck I noticed the idler/tensioner pulley (the one that has the spring attached to it) wouldn't turn freely. I loosened it greased it up and re-tightened it. However, it still will not spring freely unless I barely tighten the nut. I tried putting a second washer on it so there was one on both the top a bottom but to no resolve. Im worried the once I get this thing all hooked up the movement from the belts will cause the nut to either tighten and the pulley to not spin freely or loosen and cause the pulley to fall off dropping the belt. Anyone have any suggestions?

I also have picture but I am having trouble getting them on here... stand by for those
 
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