Johnny Bucket Jr on Cub Cadet XT2

rhenning said:

I would contact JB Jr. and ask if it will work on your tractor. They will know if there are frame problems. Roger

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Thanks. yes. thats what i did first. they said it is compatible. But they don't have any comment on how strong the tractor is. or how well it can handle the bucket. they actually suggested this forum to check if any real user has any comment.

jay7 said:

Thanks. yes. thats what i did first. they said it is compatible. But they don't have any comment on how strong the tractor is. or how well it can handle the bucket. they actually suggested this forum to check if any real user has any comment.

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If John Scheele says it will work. Then don't worry about it. I have known the Man 20 years and Have never none Him to Lie about any of his Products. He actually Looks at the Machines In Person when designing His Buckets. He will be the first to tell You That he doesn't recommend a Machine. For example He doesn't recommend the Current Husqvarna Lawn or Garden tractors. for use with his Bucket Even though it will fit On them. It's because of there new stamped Frame design:thThumbsU

Sergeant said:

If John Scheele says it will work. Then don't worry about it. I have known the Man 20 years and Have never none Him to Lie about any of his Products. He actually Looks at the Machines In Person when designing His Buckets. He will be the first to tell You That he doesn't recommend a Machine. For example He doesn't recommend the Current Husqvarna Lawn or Garden tractors. for use with his Bucket Even though it will fit On them. It's because of there new stamped Frame design:thThumbsU

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Can a K46 or a K58 handle a bucket like this?

Sergeant said:

If John Scheele says it will work. Then don't worry about it. I have known the Man 20 years and Have never none Him to Lie about any of his Products. He actually Looks at the Machines In Person when designing His Buckets. He will be the first to tell You That he doesn't recommend a Machine. For example He doesn't recommend the Current Husqvarna Lawn or Garden tractors. for use with his Bucket Even though it will fit On them. It's because of there new stamped Frame design:thThumbsU

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How many hydraulic outlets do you have to have so you don't have to change the angle of the plow, or raise and lower it by hand, without getting off the tractor to adjust it? My friend has a Cub 1863 with the 4 hydraulics. He says he has to get a tractor with four hydroponics like the 1863 to fully operate a plow without getting off the tractor at any point.

Rando58 said:

How many hydraulic outlets do you have to have so you don't have to change the angle of the plow, or raise and lower it by hand, without getting off the tractor to adjust it? My friend has a Cub 1863 with the 4 hydraulics. He says he has to get a tractor with four hydroponics like the 1863 to fully operate a plow without getting off the tractor at any point.

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Cub 1863 Did Not Have More than 1 set Of Outlets(total of two) Because You raised and Lower the Blade or Blower from the On Board Hydraulic cylinder.

None of the Cub Cadet Garden tractors or Super Garden tractors Before the 3000 series had more than 1 set of outlets.

The same cylinder that raised & Lower the deck also raise and Lowered the front Blade and snow Blower.

With the 3000 series You Got Up two two sets of Outlets for a Total of 4 In order to use the front Hitch. But the Front Hitch for the 3000 series could Have Manual angle Instead of Hydraulic angle Then You only Installed 1set Of outlets for a total of 2. But If You wanted Hydraulic angle you installed 2 set of Outlets for a total of 4 But You could Have 4 Hydraulic Valve On the 3000 series To control front Mounted attachments separately(angle & raise & Lower) from Mid Mount deck and with the 4 valve Installed On the right fender You could Operate the 3 Point separate from deck & Front Hitch.

My X748 has 2 sets Of Outlets for a Total of 4 There is a aftermarket Kit out from Aux Hydraulics for The X700 series that will give You a 3rd set Of Outlets, But You still only have two Valves. I Now Have a Dump cylinder shut off On My 45 Loader So I can control the 3point Hitch separately from the Loader. Got that from Aux Hydraulics. Now the Loader won't dump if I want to raise and Lower the 3point Hitch if I close the shut off:thThumbsU

Sergeant said:

Cub 1863 Did Not Have More than 1 set Of Outlets(total of two) Because You raised and Lower the Blade or Blower from the On Board Hydraulic cylinder.

None of the Cub Cadet Garden tractors or Super Garden tractors Before the 3000 series had more than 1 set of outlets.

The same cylinder that raised & Lower the deck also raise and Lowered the front Blade and snow Blower.

With the 3000 series You Got Up two two sets of Outlets for a Total of 4 In order to use the front Hitch. But the Front Hitch for the 3000 series could Have Manual angle Instead of Hydraulic angle Then You only Installed 1set Of outlets for a total of 2. But If You wanted Hydraulic angle you installed 2 set of Outlets for a total of 4 But You could Have 4 Hydraulic Valve On the 3000 series To control front Mounted attachments separately(angle & raise & Lower) from Mid Mount deck and with the 4 valve Installed On the right fender You could Operate the 3 Point separate from deck & Front Hitch.

My X748 has 2 sets Of Outlets for a Total of 4 There is a aftermarket Kit out from Aux Hydraulics for The X700 series that will give You a 3rd set Of Outlets, But You still only have two Valves. I Now Have a Dump cylinder shut off On My 45 Loader So I can control the 3point Hitch separately from the Loader. Got that from Aux Hydraulics. Now the Loader won't dump if I want to raise and Lower the 3point Hitch if I close the shut off:thThumbsU

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I guess I misunderstood him from what I just found out from him. He wants a new 700 series then he is covered. He wants to keep his butt in the seat without getting off to change the angle. I thought his 1863 was that way.

Rando58 said:

I guess I misunderstood him from what I just found out from him. He wants a new 700 series then he is covered. He wants to keep his butt in the seat without getting off to change the angle. I thought his 1863 was that way.

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Yes it Has 1 set of Outlets which is needed to control the angle cylinder On a Blade But lift was Taken Care of By the Mid Mount Rocker-shaft that controlled the Mid Mount Mower Lift as well as the 3point Hitch The Blade frame connected to the Mid Mount Mower Lift But the angle cylinder connected to 1 set of Front Outlets

Deere for Years was 1 of the Only companies that used 2 external Hydraulic cylinder to control raising, Lowering & angling of front Mounted attachments so it required 2 set of outlets for a Total of 4 outlets On the 140H3, 300, 316K, 317, 318, 322, 332, 400, 420, 430, 425, 445, 455, X465, X475, X485, X495, X575, X585, X595, X700, X720, X724, X729, X740, X744, X748, X749, X710, X730, X734, X750, X754 & X758 On the Deere system if You Only had 1 set of outlets You Had a Manual angle kit to control angle while the attachment had 1 cylinder for Hydraulic Lift the following Deere Model had that type of set Up with 1 set of outlets was 120, 140H1, 312, 314, 316O & 330.

While Cub Cadet, Bolens and Simplicity and a few Other used The Mid Mount rocker shaft to raise and Lower the the front Blade or Blower By Hydraulic Lift But Had 1 set of outlets to control a Implements angle cylinder.

Eventually Simplicity with the development of a Legacy added 4 Outlets as a Option On Certain Legacy Models Finally under the Legacy XL the 2 set of Outlets for a Total of 4 was Introduced and when Cub Introduced the 3000 series Up 2 set of outlets for a total of 4 Hydraulic outlets was Optional.



But the Only US Made Garden tractors On the Market today to off two set of Outlets for a Total of 4 outlets in the Deere X700 signature series and the Legacy XL.

My 1999 White GT2055 Had a 1 on Board Hydraulic Lift cylinder That controlled the Mid Mount rocker shaft and the Rear Mount Cat 0 3 point Hitch. But the Blade and Blower Sub Frame attached to the Mid Mount rocker shaft to raise and Lower the Blade or Blower But they Only Had Manual angle to angle Blade or Blower chute.

Hope this Makes since to you as two Why the Standard & Super MTD Made Cub Cadet Garden tractor's 1981 to 1998 only had 1 set of Hydraulic outlets available for a total of 2 outlets :thThumbsU