[John_U]

After retiring the truck-mounted snow removal equipment, the John Deere machines(s) have had to step up to the task of snow removal and snow blowing for our various homes and properties. That said, having a face full of snow when the wind shifts direction has proven to be quite unpleasant. Therefore, I decided that the only reasonable solution was to find a cab.:fing32:


I've been watching the local craigslist, and internet, then happened to come across this from a fellow WFM member. He brought it down to the Blunier Plow Day this past weekend.

As you can see, this doesn't appear to be the later model 300 series cab, but does have a recess at the rear for the fuel filler neck, so perhaps it is a JD14X with modifications for an early 300? The model sticker is missing, so I'm not quite sure. I'm also not sure it matters to me given having a welder and being able to make changes....

It also has these neat internal hinges with integrated door travel limiting feature!

My plan is to fabricate the required moutning and get it situated on the tractor for this year (given the late start I'm getting this fall). Eventually, I will remove all glass/plexi and blast, repair and repaint. I'm also going to insulate and sound-dampen the heck out of this thing to try to make it manageable and at least a bit quiet inside...

 

[UrbanTractor]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

John -- subscribed!:thThumbsU

Congrats! I'm looking forward to following along on this, as I am simultaneously refurbing my "new" Cozy Cab. Hoping to hear and see more about the insulation/soundproofing ideas you have. One idea that recently occured to me, was whether that spray/paint-on rubberized bedliner would possibly be a good solution?

As for which model you have -- I'm certain yours is not a 14 JDX. In addition to the other differences I mentioned over in my cab thread (*repeated below), yours looks larger dimensionally. Can you get me some measurements on the width and height?

I have some good photos of what your mounting brackets and insert panels should look like -- will post them here as soon as I dig them up.

[*Note different front window sizes, and full gasket around upper widow. Internal door hinges. Also, lower rear area of cabin appears to be fabric instead of metal as on 14 JDX. As well, forward lower filler panels are removable/detachable, whereas on 14 JDX they are fixed.]

 

[biker3777]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

The mounting brackets should easy to fab,the cab on the 420 mounted on top of the fender just to the left/right of the seat,just some 90 deg angle,the front uses a 1 inch " L" to attach to the footrest.
Does the blue Kozzy cab sticker have any numbers on it

 

[UrbanTractor]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

The mounting brackets should easy to fab,the cab on the 420 mounted on top of the fender just to the left/right of the seat,just some 90 deg angle,the front uses a 1 inch " L" to attach to the footrest.

These early Cozy Cabs are little different in that they attach to the underside/frame rather than to the fenderpan. They sort of "float" just above the fenderpan, with a gasket material closing the gap between the bottom frame of the cab and the fenderpan.

So, no holes get drilled in the fenderpans for these. There are fork-like extensions at the back of the cab that reach down and under to the frame, and a cross-member (almost like a loader sub-frame) that spans under the tractor and supports the cab at the front end.

Once I throw up those photos it will be easier to see what I mean.

 

[biker3777]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

Thats good,I really hated drilling holes in the body work.

 

[UrbanTractor]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

Thats good,I really hated drilling holes in the body work.

Yeah. Plus I think these older Cozy Cabs are just too darn heavy to support on the fenderpan -- around 250 lbs!

 

[UrbanTractor]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

Some photos of brackets and insert panels from the same model cab that John_U has….

 

[UrbanTractor]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

View of rear bracket attachment, and sub-frame attachment. These are for a 1st Edition 14 JDX, but it is essentially the same:

 

[John_U]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

Some photos of brackets and insert panels from the same model cab that John_U has….

Any idea what model this cab is? That's the exact front mounting bracket that I need (to replicate). I'll have to design my own rear since those will likely interfere with my 3-point.

 

[UrbanTractor]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

Any idea what model this cab is? That's the exact front mounting bracket that I need (to replicate). I'll have to design my own rear since those will likely interfere with my 3-point.

John, I don't know for sure the actual model designation for your cab. But I think it is an early version of the CC300. Later versions of the CC300 are a bit different -- kind of like how the Model 14 JDX has what I call 1st and 2nd Edition versions.

In some respects, it's almost a hybrid of the 14 JDX and the CC300. Either way, most folks just refer to it as an "early 300-series" Cozy Cab.

Yes, the 3PH incompatibility is tricky. I have been puzzling over that. Keep me posted on what you come up with.

 

[UrbanTractor]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

John, another question: Does the frame of your cab unbolt for dis-assembly? Or is it all welded together in one piece?

 

[John_U]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

The rear panel appears to be bolted onto the frame, but I have not looked to see how much more comes apart from these few bolts. If it's not raining tonight, I'll try to get a few more pictures.

 

[MXZRXP]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

whatever it takes, the cab will be worth the effort!!

I know this is not the same cab or tractor but I needed a custom mount, maybe this will provide an idea...

.

 

[UrbanTractor]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

The rear panel appears to be bolted onto the frame, but I have not looked to see how much more comes apart from these few bolts. If it's not raining tonight, I'll try to get a few more pictures.

I was studying that photo of the hinges and didn't' see the same bolt-together frame components that I have on the 14 JDX. I'll be interested to hear what you find.

MXZRXP, thanks for that photo!

 

[Alberta 7.3]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

Good score on the cab. I wish I could find on in my area.

UT: The front cab crossmember, do you need to drill holes for it, or does it clamp around the bottom frame flange? I've been wondering about that design aspect in case I wind up building a cab.

 

[UrbanTractor]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

Good score on the cab. I wish I could find on in my area.

UT: The front cab crossmember, do you need to drill holes for it, or does it clamp around the bottom frame flange? I've been wondering about that design aspect in case I wind up building a cab.

Bill,

Sorry to say, but I don't know. :dunno:

My cab is missing front and rear brackets, so all I have to go on is these photos. I have pretty much decided on an alternative method for mounting my cab, but I will show more on that over in my Cozy Cab thread.

But I do have some additional photos that were kindly provided to me by a gentleman with a 14 JDX 1st Edition. The 1st Edition is a bit different at the front mount, in that the mount tab is oriented vertically. So the cross member has a corresponding vertical tab on each end, and the bolt goes through it horizontally (on the 2nd edition, and John's cab here, that tab is horizontal and the bolt is vertical).

John, sorry to clutter your thread, but I hope these photos will help everybody. How the crossmember actually attaches to the underside of the tractor has baffled me. I'm hoping some of you clever fellas will explain. :dunno:

 

[Alberta 7.3]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

Looks to be a clamp on system.

I might draw something in MS paint to show you what I think is up. :sidelaugh

 

[Wisconsin140]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

I made my own rear bracket out of 1/4" plate steel to hold a suit case weight bracket. 6 suit case weights are pretty heavy.

 

[Alberta 7.3]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

My theory on the front cab mount. {rummages through closet for Nomex suit}

 

[Ledwyn329]

Re: John Deere 317 Cozy Cab Adaptation/Restoration

Looking at what shows in the photos UrbanTractor posted, I would say Alberta 7.3 is close in his diagram. However I would suggest the bolts and large washers probably go through an existing hole in the bottom of the tractor flange, that would draw the bracket tight to the frame.