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My first farm tractor was a 1971 Ford 2000 I bought used in 73.....it has set outside since then, the plastic has fallen off the steering wheel from being in the sun, the paint is rough, and I don't use it now but every three years. Will start right up with a jump, and only have changed fluids since I got it.....Not many farmers anymore so medium size farm tractors used are cheap and so are the implements. They are super reliable and easy to work on...even if you need to hire it done. Homeowners are everywhere and the size tractor toy that Harry Homeowner will want is expensive and needs constant attention....buy what you think you will like....
 

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I bought a 52xlsi. I was so unhappy I returned it to the dealer. It would not run. They gave me a ts348d. I would buy anything else but a Husky. They are garbage. Worst purchase of my life.
 

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Now your talking! The 855 is the best one the OP has said he's willing to consider that will not disappoint him, and be able to keep up with any of his planned or anticipated tasks. The condition will determine the price. It will also sell again for what you paid for it years down the road.

Opinions on what I've read so far in this thread...

3-point hitch is far superior to sleeve, there are plenty of used implements out there for the same cost or cheaper than lightweight sleeve-hitch tools. Remember, it's the power and the weight that gets the job done...you need both! Any used 3-point implement can be sold for probably what you pay for it...more if you clean it up and paint it.

There's a reason that 60-yr old tractors are 60 years old...it's because they last and are relatively bulletproof compared to the newer and lighter machines. I can buy a recently restored/freshly repainted Ford 8N with 12-volt updated charging system and new ag tires in my neighborhood for $3500, and it will work all day long and do anything listed in this thread. Don't discount older stuff just because it's old!

If you are sold on new machines, JD & Kubota are the top of the pile, just get one that will do the work. Buy once, Cry once.
 

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In my opinion, with 24 acres, you need a LOT more than a 25HP tractor, maybe double that.
VERY subjective here. Depends on what you’re trying to do, how much time you want to spend doing it, budget, among other things.

Between my dad and I, we have close to 25 acres. A 25 horse CUT would be sufficient, once we finish building our house (basically a big landscaping project. Other than hauling a bunch of dirt with bigger loader that comes in that class machine, the 20 extra horse just isn’t a major must have benefit). That said, it is nice to have 20 more horsepower now and then. Bigger jobs don’t tax the bigger machine as much. I did run around on my 23 horse SCUT for awhile. Biggest problem I had was tire size. Rough ride. The backhoe available for that machine would have worked just as well as the one on my 46 horse tractor to remove all but maybe 2 of the stumps I took out. Those 2 were too much for my 46 horse machine, and a LOT bigger than the other 70 or so I dug out with ease.

If we had 1 acre and 30 oak stumps to remove that were each 4’ across, my 46 horse tractor won’t cut the mustard, even though it’s only one acre.

The point is that Acreage size is definitely not the only most important factor.
 

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I see this all the time a person on a limited budget wants to buy the cheapest unit he can afford but wants to do the work of a much more expensive unit. Would you buy a half ton truck for price and use it to haul what a one ton truck would haul? To use ground engaging implements takes a good solid tractor not some light duty want to be a tractor, and to add a Loader----well that really would test the frame. I have a 14 Massey Ferguson that I use a full size planter unit on I would not consider using it on on of the new wanna be tractors. Also have a 400 JD well tested and tried it is equipped with a loader and hoe, does a lot of work but even that I can feel the frame give especially when the bucket is loaded to one side. The new tractors whether JD Husqvarna CC or whom ever can put their label on it have gotten bloated with "niceties" and thinner metal, quality small tractors are a thing of the past. As much as I hate the imported compacts with all you want to do I would suggest you chose of those. It will last you many years of service if taken care of and uses a standard cat 1 hitch, and are made for loaders and heavy ground engaging tools. They usually always come with diff lock and are available wit 4 wd. Even an older well cared for farm tractor (MF 135, JD 1020 or a similar sized tractor) will out work and outlast any of todays lawn and garden tractors. A compact or a used farm tractor will still be working while you are replacing that LGT. My thoughts-- Thanks for listening
 

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2025R will handle 2 acres of Garden and even More I own Both a 2025R and a X748(older version of a X758) and then a few More Garden tractor as well. I used a Garden tractor for Years On 3acre Gardens Used a JD 240 which would be close to a JDX570 as far as the 240 used sleeve Hitch Implements & a 30inch Belt driven PTO tiller. The 240 also used a Manual lift spring assist to raise & Lower Implements Only thing it doesn't Have is Diff/lock which the JD X570 has.

About 3 to 4 years after I bought the JD 240 I added a Ingersoll Garden tractor with a Hydraulic lift Cat 0 3 point Hitch to complement the JD 240 for Garden work Then about 7 to 8 years Later I added a White GT2055 Because I finally wanted a Loader Tractor. But it Lacked Power steering so I Bought a Used JD 425 so I could Have a Loader tractor That Had Power steering. I used that for about 2 Years On that 3 acre Northern NY Garden. When I retired from the Army In 2002 I used the 425 & White GT2055 to Handle a 3.5 acre Garden. Traded the 425 In 2003 for a JD X485 with a Loader & Hydraulic tiller to Handle that 3.5acre Garden Until 2014 when I traded the X485 for a used 2012 X748. we Moved to a New Place In 2016 where I have about a 1.7 acre Garden for which I Bought a JD 1025R in 2017 to Help with the Garden work. Finally Upgraded that to a 2025R In summer 2018. I have a Mowing deck for the 2025R But I don't use it. The deck just sits On a shelf collecting dust. I did Use the 2025R for Tilling work for Garden Prep this Past June. But all it's done since is Backhoe work

While the 2025R does Great with the Prep work I find Myself Using the X748 More In the Garden than the 2025R. Which really Only Bought the 1025R & 2025R to do Backhoe work anyways . For a 3 acre Garden really the Deere super Garden tractors ie X700 series Tractors are really suited for Garden work. If Your Just Growing row Crops the Compact tractors will Probably be fine Ie Beans & Corn But I grow Watermelons and Tomatoes and other things as well and a Garden tractor is Just More Nimble to work In the Garden. Actually this Year I have used my 2004 GX335 In the garden More than the X748. I am actually Looking at adding a 2 Wheel tractor for use In the Garden once the Corn Gets 6inchs Tall https://www.earthtools.com/tractors-bcs/bcs-852-853/ because there More suited for Cultivating duties with a Power Harrow .

But for Now In Your Case I would start off with the X570 and Go from there you Can always Upgrade if You need more tractor.

BTW I use a Johnny Products electric Lift sleeve Hitch On My JD GX335 and a Johnny Products electric Lift Kits On MY OEM sleeve Hitch On MY Cub Cadet XT3. The wife wants to get a 30inch Bercomac tiller 30" Rotary Tiller for Lawn and Garden Tractors - Bercomac for the XT3GSX so she Can tend to Her Garden Beds. Having a smaller PTO tiller is a real nice thing to have Once the Garden grows Up.

But In closing I would suggest the X570 as a Good Starter tractor for Your Intended needs right now of a 2 acre Garden:thThumbsU
thanks so much.. that's the word I had on my mind "nimble" . A small tractor is more nimble. I was a little surprised at the amount of responses suggesting a reg. size large tractor. I just can't see it on our little farm, although I understand what people are saying, and it's nice to have the extra power esp. for a front loader, but that really is optional at this beginning stage. So yes, I am leaning towards somethign smaller, like x570. After seeing all the responses I started thinking that I may at least need a diesel, because it's more power(?) but I am glad to see your recommendation for 500 series.
 

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It looks to me that what you need is much more than a garden tractor. Go for an old farm tractor. I bought a 1948 JD Model A in great condition for $500 plus hauling to my place. All it needed was a paint job. I also bought an 1948 Allis Chalmers WD. I work 15 acres, plow, till and mow. I sold the JD now use the AC. I needed to purchase a 3 point hitch kit was all. The WD's now sell for around 2-3 K$ in great shape, parts are available, and they are a great tractor. As long as upkeep is good on these old guys they will do anything you would want. Of course if you want heat and AC and a cab go modern. I personally would not buy any current new equipment for the work you want to do. Check Allischalmers.com, Yesterdaystractors.com all list great old farm equipment. I would always recommend JD with todays equipment.
all right, thanks I will take a look at those websites.
 

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Now your talking! The 855 is the best one the OP has said he's willing to consider that will not disappoint him, and be able to keep up with any of his planned or anticipated tasks. The condition will determine the price. It will also sell again for what you paid for it years down the road.

Opinions on what I've read so far in this thread...

3-point hitch is far superior to sleeve, there are plenty of used implements out there for the same cost or cheaper than lightweight sleeve-hitch tools. Remember, it's the power and the weight that gets the job done...you need both! Any used 3-point implement can be sold for probably what you pay for it...more if you clean it up and paint it.

There's a reason that 60-yr old tractors are 60 years old...it's because they last and are relatively bulletproof compared to the newer and lighter machines. I can buy a recently restored/freshly repainted Ford 8N with 12-volt updated charging system and new ag tires in my neighborhood for $3500, and it will work all day long and do anything listed in this thread. Don't discount older stuff just because it's old!

If you are sold on new machines, JD & Kubota are the top of the pile, just get one that will do the work. Buy once, Cry once.
lol, ok thanks,
 

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VERY subjective here. Depends on what you’re trying to do, how much time you want to spend doing it, budget, among other things.

Between my dad and I, we have close to 25 acres. A 25 horse CUT would be sufficient, once we finish building our house (basically a big landscaping project. Other than hauling a bunch of dirt with bigger loader that comes in that class machine, the 20 extra horse just isn’t a major must have benefit). That said, it is nice to have 20 more horsepower now and then. Bigger jobs don’t tax the bigger machine as much. I did run around on my 23 horse SCUT for awhile. Biggest problem I had was tire size. Rough ride. The backhoe available for that machine would have worked just as well as the one on my 46 horse tractor to remove all but maybe 2 of the stumps I took out. Those 2 were too much for my 46 horse machine, and a LOT bigger than the other 70 or so I dug out with ease.

If we had 1 acre and 30 oak stumps to remove that were each 4’ across, my 46 horse tractor won’t cut the mustard, even though it’s only one acre.

The point is that Acreage size is definitely not the only most important factor.
thanks
btw, things are getting confused here, we have 4 acres, and we will cultivate only 1-2 in the beginning, there are some trees to be removed, but I'm thinking about some ratcheting system and maybe a winch for those few jobs.
to till 25 acres would be a different story
 

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I see this all the time a person on a limited budget wants to buy the cheapest unit he can afford but wants to do the work of a much more expensive unit. Would you buy a half ton truck for price and use it to haul what a one ton truck would haul? To use ground engaging implements takes a good solid tractor not some light duty want to be a tractor, and to add a Loader----well that really would test the frame. I have a 14 Massey Ferguson that I use a full size planter unit on I would not consider using it on on of the new wanna be tractors. Also have a 400 JD well tested and tried it is equipped with a loader and hoe, does a lot of work but even that I can feel the frame give especially when the bucket is loaded to one side. The new tractors whether JD Husqvarna CC or whom ever can put their label on it have gotten bloated with "niceties" and thinner metal, quality small tractors are a thing of the past. As much as I hate the imported compacts with all you want to do I would suggest you chose of those. It will last you many years of service if taken care of and uses a standard cat 1 hitch, and are made for loaders and heavy ground engaging tools. They usually always come with diff lock and are available wit 4 wd. Even an older well cared for farm tractor (MF 135, JD 1020 or a similar sized tractor) will out work and outlast any of todays lawn and garden tractors. A compact or a used farm tractor will still be working while you are replacing that LGT. My thoughts-- Thanks for listening
I hear I hear you, thank you.
 

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I see this all the time a person on a limited budget wants to buy the cheapest unit he can afford but wants to do the work of a much more expensive unit. Would you buy a half ton truck for price and use it to haul what a one ton truck would haul? To use ground engaging implements takes a good solid tractor not some light duty want to be a tractor, and to add a Loader----well that really would test the frame. I have a 14 Massey Ferguson that I use a full size planter unit on I would not consider using it on on of the new wanna be tractors. Also have a 400 JD well tested and tried it is equipped with a loader and hoe, does a lot of work but even that I can feel the frame give especially when the bucket is loaded to one side. The new tractors whether JD Husqvarna CC or whom ever can put their label on it have gotten bloated with "niceties" and thinner metal, quality small tractors are a thing of the past. As much as I hate the imported compacts with all you want to do I would suggest you chose of those. It will last you many years of service if taken care of and uses a standard cat 1 hitch, and are made for loaders and heavy ground engaging tools. They usually always come with diff lock and are available wit 4 wd. Even an older well cared for farm tractor (MF 135, JD 1020 or a similar sized tractor) will out work and outlast any of todays lawn and garden tractors. A compact or a used farm tractor will still be working while you are replacing that LGT. My thoughts-- Thanks for listening
So I want to post this question here, but this is a question to all who believe in large reg. tractors.
Would any of those below work for me in your opinion? 1-2 acres, mostly moldboard plow, and cultivating and disc harrow.
Or are they still too small?

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-farming-equipment/saskatoon/2004-john-deere-4115-diesel-compact-tractor/1453208725?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-farming-equipment/kawartha-lakes/2005-john-deere-2210-diesel-4x4-tractor-very-low-hrs/1454821198?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-farming-equipment/calgary/john-deere-455-diesel-tractor-runs-great-54-mower/1454004223?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
 

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So you guys are telling me that a 20 or 30 yr. old tractor, will be trouble free, vs. a new John Deere x5** ? I thought that JDs, even small ones were tough? and old stuff is.... old stuff. it's like buying a car, I woudl always choose a new car over an old Ford. Tractors have the same components as cars; wheels, engines etc. so they are bound to break down if they are old. right? what am I missing?
And I know I can only use a single moldboard plow on a small garden tractor, it's not like I could pull a set of 7 plows, but on 2 acres I can afford to leisurely chug along and do it furrow by furrow
I am not really disagreeing with anybody here, Im just trying to get to the bottom of this, because for 6 grand all I see available are antiques.
I would not trade my old 455 for something new, exept maybe a x758 or 950R. Its old, but runs and drives and the hydraulics work. It looks like ****, but im fixing it up piece by piece. Paid about 700USD for it with the 3point hitch, and it was running quite good. Gave it a service with all new filters and fluids, greased the joints and it was all good to go. Bought new tires for it AG tires front and rear, sandblasted the rims and body and some new paint. Just needs a new hood and side panels now.
 

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I would not trade my old 455 for something new, exept maybe a x758 or 950R.
What's a 950R? The only reference I can find to that as a JD model is the Z950R zero turn mower.
 

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Go with the heavy Deere.

As you see from the username, I have a very similar tractor to the Husqvarna you are mentioning.

Now don't get me wrong, I spent a lot of time looking for good specs (K66, kawasaki, big tires) and I got all of those in for a great price used. But I didn't know about the frame issue. Thankfully, I never tried to use it for ground engagement.

So I'm happily left with a great yard tractor that is more than capable of mowing on slopes and moving trailers around. But I wouldn't try to use that kind of equipment with my husqvarna.
 

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That 855 if still available it is not that much larger and way more tractor than the 500 series. I saw one just yesterday. Looks like a older GT just a bit larger.
 

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It looks like that X950R is not available in the US. That's why I couldn't find anything about it on the JD USA web site. It looks like it is the European version of what they call the X700 series here.
 

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I will need to buy a garden tractor to cultivate a couple of acres, 2 at first, then maybe clear some land and work on more. I really like the specs of Husqvarna GT52XLSi, (dif lock, strong enough tuff torqe transaxle) but I don't like their frame twisting and buckling. I want to use my tractor with a moldboard plow, cultivator, harrow etc. and maybe even with the front plow/loader. So I am really leaning towards JD x570, it's more expensive but in the long run what good is Husqvarna if the frame buckles. Also my terrain is uneven and we got a little bit of a slope. What would you guys choose? Someone said not to discount Cub Cadet, but I also have to look at dealerships, and around Fredericton New Brunswick there are not that many choices, I need to look at the future service, parts etc. Would JD X570 be a good choice?
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You have uneven ground and slopes? A plow can be pretty hard to pull even if you add lots of weight in that kind of ground no matter what size tractor. That kind of ground can be tough to get into planting condition and take a few trips over it as well. Most of the plow day videos I've seen look like flat good soil when plowing with GT's. Some GT's in the YouTube videos seem to have a rough time I've noticed with a plow or disk.
 
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