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I will need to buy a garden tractor to cultivate a couple of acres, 2 at first, then maybe clear some land and work on more. I really like the specs of Husqvarna GT52XLSi, (dif lock, strong enough tuff torqe transaxle) but I don't like their frame twisting and buckling. I want to use my tractor with a moldboard plow, cultivator, harrow etc. and maybe even with the front plow/loader. So I am really leaning towards JD x570, it's more expensive but in the long run what good is Husqvarna if the frame buckles. Also my terrain is uneven and we got a little bit of a slope. What would you guys choose? Someone said not to discount Cub Cadet, but I also have to look at dealerships, and around Fredericton New Brunswick there are not that many choices, I need to look at the future service, parts etc. Would JD X570 be a good choice?
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My thoughts......I'm a farmer....and I use real tractors to do work....I've got old Wheelhorses, John deere heavy duty garden tractors, and some really nice old Craftsman GT 6000s. These are theoretically probably capable of doing real work, but compared to a farm tractor, they are toy's. Look around for a clean used Ford 8N, 2000, 3000 etc, or any real tractor that strikes your fancy. You'll save time, money and aggravation.
 

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Ford 8N that's 60 years old. Isnt' that asking for trouble?
I understand the bigger the better but with our budget we're looking at spendign up to $6000 USD, and I want somethign reliable. And a lot of crops will be smaller patches of garden variety
Are those older tractors reliable?
 

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If going Ford forget the 8N and go direct to a 2000 or 3000. They are way nicer tractors than the old 8N. You really need some thing with power steering, real time pto and hydraulics. Any brand utility will do. For no more acres than you have there is really no need for a full sized farm tractor unless you have a building big enough to park it in.
 

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None of those in the OP would be my choice especially with moldboard plow. I look for something with a real 3 point hitch and heavy frames to mount a front loader like a used John Deere 430, 455, x495, or x595 would be better, no smaller. These all have long lasting diesel engines, 2 or 3 spool hudraulics, power steering, diff lock and weigh over 1000# without mower. Even an older subcompact: Deere, Kubota, Yanmar
 

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$6000 might get you something used that would do the job but nowadays $6000 only buys a new heavy duty lawn mower. I would look for an older sub-compact that has had gentleman farmer usage.
 

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Most old stuff is better than a brand new Husq...Massey Ferguson, Allis Chalmers, Case, IH, Bolens..and you won't have to spend 6 grand
 

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So you guys are telling me that a 20 or 30 yr. old tractor, will be trouble free, vs. a new John Deere x5** ? I thought that JDs, even small ones were tough? and old stuff is.... old stuff. it's like buying a car, I woudl always choose a new car over an old Ford. Tractors have the same components as cars; wheels, engines etc. so they are bound to break down if they are old. right? what am I missing?
And I know I can only use a single moldboard plow on a small garden tractor, it's not like I could pull a set of 7 plows, but on 2 acres I can afford to leisurely chug along and do it furrow by furrow
I am not really disagreeing with anybody here, Im just trying to get to the bottom of this, because for 6 grand all I see available are antiques.
 

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So this is the JD I was thinking about
https://www.deere.com/en/mowers/lawn-tractors/x500-series/x570-lawn-tractor-48-in/
I saw this on kijij
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-farming-equipment/saint-john/john-deere-855-24hp-diesel/1453151685?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

which one is a better choice?
Please keep in mind I am not a mechanic, and doing engine repairs and such would be major challenge.
thats why I really like the 4 yr. warranty from John Deere, on new tractors
Both of these machines I would put ag tires on them, that's in the budget.
And speaking of budgets, I think attachments for sleeve hitches are cheaper than the 3 point, aren't they?
 

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Don’t let anyone fool you- most of the time when you buy 20/30 year old tractor you are going to spend a lot of time wrenching on it. To some of the guys on this forum it’s no big deal, they have the time and the skill to rebuild anything. But don’t expect to buy a heavily used 20/30 year old tractor and not have to spend considerable time on it. Reliability also becomes an issue with high hour, 30 year old tractor

I think you will need to buy an electric sleeve hitch for the X570- you’ll need some weights. Easy to get into bracket creep, but I would seriously look at X580 (with hydraulics) and power steering for your intended use. The JD ( any of the 500 series) is light years better than Husky- besides weak frame ( not good if you intend to plow) they have steering issues and only have k66 tranny, while the JD 500s series have K72= 40% more torque to rear wheels
 

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Buy an old power king in good shape and have at. Very capable for what you intend to use it for and dependable.
 

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To begin with, I am a Kubota bigot!

To me, one key is that even though you are going to start with "a couple of acres" you also indicate that you are thinking of clearing land and enlarging the footprint that you will be managing. I may be wrong, but a Garden Tractor just will not cut it 5 years down the road when a couple of acres becomes 4 or 5 acres. Also, think heavily about a front end loader (FEL). I owned a Kubota BX2230 to manage 5 acres and the biggest mistake I made was not buying an FEL. When I moved from Kentucky to Virginia, I sold the BX2230 and bought a BX2660 with an FEL and my back is ever grateful.

A second key is who in the local economy can perform maintenance. I am blessed by an exemplary Kubota dealer locally, but there are several independent shops that work on tractors of all sizes.

That all being said, I'd stick with Deere, Kubota, Kioti (they licensed to manufacture Kubota designs).
 

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I will need to buy a garden tractor to cultivate a couple of acres, 2 at first, then maybe clear some land and work on more. I really like the specs of Husqvarna GT52XLSi, (dif lock, strong enough tuff torqe transaxle) but I don't like their frame twisting and buckling. I want to use my tractor with a moldboard plow, cultivator, harrow etc. and maybe even with the front plow/loader. So I am really leaning towards JD x570, it's more expensive but in the long run what good is Husqvarna if the frame buckles. Also my terrain is uneven and we got a little bit of a slope. What would you guys choose? Someone said not to discount Cub Cadet, but I also have to look at dealerships, and around Fredericton New Brunswick there are not that many choices, I need to look at the future service, parts etc. Would JD X570 be a good choice?
thanks
Personally by the sounds of the description I think a x5 series is gonna be to small. Cultivating 2 acres, clearing land, adding more land for cultivation, then have to assume there is land used as lawn, snow removal and various oddities, I would think a x7 series or similar sized competitive brand would be the minimum. Actually a sub compact or compact tractor would be more in line, series 1, or series 2. Yep budget just went out the window, but you will buy it once and be able to do what you have in mind and have a running machine years down the road.
 

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that is the beauty of John Deere in comparison to say Husky-- I dont disagree OP might need something bigger down the road. By buying a JD 500 series -- in 4 or 5 years he can trade it in ( if he needs something bigger) and get a good pct of his money back in trade in -- try trading in a 5 year old $3500 husky and wont get spit for it
 

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Don’t let anyone fool you- most of the time when you buy 20/30 year old tractor you are going to spend a lot of time wrenching on it. To some of the guys on this forum it’s no big deal, they have the time and the skill to rebuild anything. But don’t expect to buy a heavily used 20/30 year old tractor and not have to spend considerable time on it. Reliability also becomes an issue with high hour, 30 year old tractor

I think you will need to buy an electric sleeve hitch for the X570- you’ll need some weights. Easy to get into bracket creep, but I would seriously look at X580 (with hydraulics) and power steering for your intended use. The JD ( any of the 500 series) is light years better than Husky- besides weak frame ( not good if you intend to plow) they have steering issues and only have k66 tranny, while the JD 500s series have K72= 40% more torque to rear wheels
well exactly, I don't want to spend time wrenching on it, neither do I have the skill to do it
Is it possible to use the Johnny Products electric sleeve hitch on x5** ?
I noticed lots of people buy the John Deere brand sleeve hitch, which is mechanical, I don't know why they wouldn't go for the Johnny Products which also gives you a downward force.
Universal Sleeve Hitch
 
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