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I decided to use my new 14 to do a little mowing just to see how it did. Checked the oil level, it was just a tad low so I topped it off. Climbed on and it fired right up. It mowed great for about a 1,000 feet or so then the engine started to die and just as it quit it backfired. I can turn the key and nothing happens. I put a volt meter on the battery and got 12.97 volts so I thought maybe the solenoid went out so I jumped from post to post and got nothing. Took the ground loose at both ends and cleaned. Replaced battery with another one I know is good and cleaned the positive lead. Same results.:fing20: Anyone have suggestions? Thanks.
 

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I would say that you have check every electrical connection
in the system. Take them apart,clean them, make sure they're tight.
For sure a new spark plug, and lead.

When you say you turn the key, nothing. Do mean not even cranking
over, or just not fireing?
 

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Sound's like you have a bad ground, jump neg. term. of battery to engine block and try again.
 

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If you only mowed a 1000 feet and it slowed and died. My knee jerk reaction is FUEL TANK VENT/Cap VENT. Loosen the fuel cap a couple of turns and see if it fires up, that is if it turns over. Depending on what engine it has,if its a later model briggs with the fuel shut down in the bottom of the carb,Check it for voltage or a bad ground and Report back
 

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Does the motor spin by hand? As others have mentioned, use a jumper cable to the starter stud. But first check to see if the motor is still free spinning.... everything I read into your post tells me you just seized the motor.
 

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Did you ever resolve this issue?
 

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Haven't had a chance to look at it yet, the wife wanted to make a quick trip to donate money to the casino operators so we've been gone all this week. She's happy, the casino people are REAL HAPPY, so I'll take a look at it tomorrow.........unless she comes up with something else. I need 48 hour days and 14 day weeks. I'll post when I get a chance to look at it.
 

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Just pulled my pickup next to the 14 and using jumper cables went from my battery to the starter post, sat in the seat, depressed the brake and connected the ground. It turned over so the engine isn't frozen and the starter works. When I go into town tomorrow I'll pick up some fuel line and a new filter and a spark plug. While I'm changing that out I'll let the oil drain as I don't know when the PO last changed the oil. Just happened to think, does the MF14 have a Ralph Nader seat safety switch or other switches that may have failed? I sure like the way this tractor looks, can't wait to get it going.
 

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The old Kohler K's still had points don't forget, my bet would be on bad points. I'm guessing that maybe you left the PTO switch on because the machine died on you, if you did it, won't crank over. Go to the starter soleniod and jump from the battery cable terminal to the small terminal (may have to unhook the wire on it) and it should crank over. MAKE darn sure it's in netraul and the keys OFF when you do this. This just by-passes all the safety switchs. If it cranks over that way, useing a test light start from the ignition switch and go to each switch to find where your open circuit is. I did have the fuel inlet needle stick almost shut on my 1650MF and it ran fine till I throttled up and started mowing, then died out. Of course the carb was the last thing I checked!
 

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She is alive and running. I first cleaned the battery connections and the ground connection to the frame, checked everything I could think of. This morning I pulled the battery and took the ground loose from the frame. I noticed it didn't feel just right and after closer inspection noticed it was broken inside the insulation. Replace with another ground wire, cleaned the plug and adjusted the gap, put a little gas in the hole to help prime it and SHAZAM!, she fired right up. I knew to check the simple things first but it never crossed my mind the wire itself was bad. Thanks for all the suggestions and help. :thThumbsU
 

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Glad you got her going, but it looks like it's almost been a month
since you started cutting the lawn. Be ready to change the oil after
that workout. :)
 

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I finished mowing that day with the Craftsman. We've had 28 straight days of 100+ degree weather with no rain for Aug. so the grass hasn't grown much. I played on it some today and I am amazed at the top speed when in High Range. This thing will boogie! I'm really going to like this little tractor. Hope to have time to paint it this winter. I did notice a little smoke from the exhaust, not bad but it was there. Gotta read up on it a little to see how it differs from the 1650.
 

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I'm on the gulfcoast, know what you're talking about on the heat. I usually enjoy my time out on the tractors, but not the last 30-45 days, just flat too darn hot. The MF14/16 tractors are on a different frame from the 1450/1650"s. Same basic motor and hydro combo, same steering sector, but not much else that I know of.
 

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{butches_hobby "I'm on the gulfcoast, know what you're talking about on the heat. I usually enjoy my time out on the tractors, but not the last 30-45 days, just flat too darn hot."}

I know what you mean, I'm retired and love being outside. I just stay hydrated and hope the wife doesn't come up with more "Honey Do's". I've learned that retirement means: A period in one's live when the Honey Do's list doubles. It's so dry up here that when my grandkids come to visit I tie a 2x4 across them to keep them from falling in a crack in the ground.
 

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Just saw you're reply TinnerN, thanks for the chuckle. You mentioned it smoked a couple of times, that wouldn't necessaily get me too excited unless you're getting a lot of blow by oil into the air cleaner. Then I'd check the breather assembly over the valves first, there's a reed type valve in there that might need cleaning. AND it's a darn good time to adjust the valves, the ole Kohler K's have an automatic compression release to make them easier to crank over starting, if the vlaves get too far out of adjustment the release doesn't work. The worst case would be to have to overhaul it, complete rebiuld kits are available std,10"-20"-30" over and are not all that expensive. Now if you get tired of that ole MF, let me know, I'd love to have it!!
 
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