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Hey everyone, I stumbled upon this forum while doing research on purchasing my first lawn tractor. Now a little background...I'm a software engineer in Massachusetts by trade, and generally all my life, I've stayed away from doing too much stuff outside. So now I'm married, have a kid, and a house with about an acre of flat lawn that we've had for 2 years. I've been having a landscaper come maintain my lawn, but #1: I'm sick of paying them and #2: they were pretty crummy anyway.
So all that being said, I'm interested in purchasing my first lawn tractor. I'm not knowledgeable about them at all, but I generally do my due diligence on things before purchasing something that expensive. Based on my initial research, it's apparent that most people think purchasing something like a John Deere from my local big-box store might not be the brightest idea...so I kind of wanted to check in with some people much more in the know than I am.
What do I need a lawn tractor for? Well, #1 is mowing and I have some grand plans to use it to dethatch and aerate my lawn as well (both terms that I recently learn :p)...I'm very jealous of my next door neighbor who is retired and spends a ton of time maintaining his yard, so I'd like to not be so embarrassed when his lawn is green and mine is yellow in the middle of the summer...but I also don't have as much time as him, so something that can help me get my job done faster is a plus obviously. And I would use it to just pull around random stuff like debris or bags of soil for the garden that my wife will inevitably want to put in one day.
Now someone said in another thread that one would never regret getting a more pricey model of tractor, but in reality, we all have budgets. I'd like to keep mine in the $4k range, but I do have wiggle room. Also, while I am totally not handy, it's because I generally have not had a chance in my life to be handy...but once I get into something, I end up learning pretty well...I just need some reason to do so. So I'm not totally adverse to needing to put in my own time to keep my purchase maintained, but obviously, I'm a beginner, so the less chance of me messing something up, the better.
Thanks ahead of time for your help and opinions!
Edit: Also, I'm not stuck on any particular brand, but with John Deere's setup, I feel like they are intent on getting me off on the right foot rather than me needing to do stuff like adjust the deck or something right off the bat.
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get a snapper to mow and pick up leafs with. get a good used tractor to pull carts and other implements. have had a snapper for over 30 years mowing an acre of lawn every weeks in the summer. I have a 140 deere for snow removal and other projects that require a heavier machine.
ownin a new mower is almost like havin a new car.. pretty soon a new mower will cost as much as a car does.. they r commin out with new EFI engines for mowers now.. this may double the price of them.. then the EPA & the National Safety Board will step in & make back up cameras & rear view mirro's b put on them too.. then Yahoo will step in & add the self drivin tecks to one & have it controlled by a satellite .. some mowers today r already gettin close to the HP of some mini cars..

in the future I can just see the repair bill on a mower made in 2020.. prolly will b over 3 K..

I really pity a new guy who wants a new mower.. he won't b able to find the dip stick to check the oil in his engine..

well.. take all of this as a warning.. the entry level mowers made today r no good in my book.. made so cheap u will b lucky if they outlast the warranty.. to get a good new mower today u have to go up the ladder of sizes..
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I’d wait a bit and see if John Deere runs a special in November. I acre flat ground, I’d look at x310-320..right up your alley of what you are looking for and either would last you 20 years or more . Both have the K58 transmission, well-built frames. Neither is ground engagement ( tiller) but to get a quality garden tractor its more than 4k anyway( unless you buy used) and considering you are new to tractors- new X series and its 4 year bumper to bumper warranty it’s probably better for you anyway. John Deere has among the highest customer satisfaction in business; you’ll be able to get parts 15-20 years down the road. In addition generally speaking John Deere lawn tractors hold their value for resale better than most other brands, so if 4 or 5 years down the road you decide you need a heavier duty machine ( either X500 or X700 series) easy to trade in your tractor to your dealer and upgrade

Enjoy the mission of finding yourself a good tractor- it’s a lot of fun if you enjoy doing research- look at customer satisfaction of cub cadet, Snapper vs John Deere- look at engines , quality of cut, reliability- attachments available for tractor- quality of local dealer


BTW welcome to this board- I think you'll find its a great source for info on tractors, lawn attachments- amazing the quality - depth and breadth of the knowledge of many on this forum Enjoy!!
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blackbri: I'd rather just purchase one tractor to "do it all"...which doesn't need to include snow removal (I'm very happy having someone plow my extremely long driveway).
Whirly: Thanks for the tip on the entry-level mowers...that's kind of what I gathered from reading up on different sources. I was shocked when I first started my research how cheap riders were, until I realized that even the highest priced one at Lowes was still on the bottom tier of mowers offered outside of a big box store.
UpstateTony: Thanks for the advice on waiting for a special...since I don't actually need one until next year, I can bide my time. Right now there seem to be a few incentives to purchase a JD, but I can wait another month to see how the try to get rid of their stock. I was looking at the X300 series and I think I might eventually end up there, but what would be the pros/cons of upgrading to an X500. I'm big on springing for the "best" I can get now just to avoid needing to upgrade too soon when I find out I need something better. But this is a case where I'm really not sure what the differences are (like what will I be able to do with an X500 over an X300?) to help my ultimate decision.
My budget is a bit flexible, especially since the arrival of my daughter ensures a nice fat tax return next year :).
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Welcome aboard here @ MTF!:MTF_wel:

Just joining and then asking has already started the process..... You sound like a smart young man--and now with a place of your own and a family--time to take ahold of a few projects...:thThumbsU


Read up here, and other places--first about mowers, then other things you'll need as you go along.
Good luck--keep us informed...Nobody learns everything in a day--
Need any answers--someone will chime in, my man!

glenn
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:Welcome1: You're starting off right. Folks here can help with advice on just about anything. NO SNOWBLOWER !!?? You'll be missing out on some fun seat time ! Just remember : a real snowy winter can make plowing the driveway run out of space to push the snow to. ; while a snow blower spreads it out instead of piling it in one spot. Just enjoy whichever tractor you get. :fing32:
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Yeah, I hear you about the snowblower/plow thing, as we experienced that exact situation last winter. On the very last storm, we had no more room to push our snow pile, so we had to pay extra to get someone with a bulldozer to push it further into our yard.
And of course, it didn't snow again lol.
But yeah, I'm not looking into spending my own time plowing my driveway (it's like a good 300 feet) and we have a really good deal with snowplowing and are very happy with his service.
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you should look at the husquvarna GT52XLS pretty heavy doughty
kohler 26 hp electric
differental loc
and rated for ground engagement
54 deck

$3,199.99
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blackbri: I I was looking at the X300 series and I think I might eventually end up there, but what would be the pros/cons of upgrading to an X500. I'm big on springing for the "best" I can get now just to avoid needing to upgrade too soon when I find out I need something better. But this is a case where I'm really not sure what the differences are (like what will I be able to do with an X500 over an X300?) to help my ultimate decision.
My budget is a bit flexible, especially since the arrival of my daughter ensures a nice fat tax return next year :).
You should post that question in John Deere forum- the guys over there will give you a good breakdown of X300 series vs X500 series
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I was looking at the X300 series and I think I might eventually end up there, but what would be the pros/cons of upgrading to an X500. I'm big on springing for the "best" I can get now just to avoid needing to upgrade too soon when I find out I need something better. But this is a case where I'm really not sure what the differences are (like what will I be able to do with an X500 over an X300?) to help my ultimate decision.
My budget is a bit flexible, especially since the arrival of my daughter ensures a nice fat tax return next year :).
The 2 things that count for tractor capability are weight and transaxle, with the transaxle being the more important.

The X3xx tractors weigh between 500 and 850 lb. The X5xx tractors weigh between 556 and 1113 lb.

The X3xx tractors have entry level hydros (Tuff Torq K46) to an upgraded entry level hydro (Tuff Torq K58). The X5xx tractors have hydros with substantially more capability (TT K72 at the light end and TT K92 at the heavy end). These are all ground engaging capable hydros.

Any meaningful upgrades from a X3xx LT put you into X5xx GT territory.

Additional information for comparison is at this site, including info on other brands.
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Thanks Tudor. In the end, I think an X500 would be too much for what I'm looking for, and the dealer I spoke to recommended an X320. Now to go over the details and make a decision.
Don't forget to add in the cost of that new addition (aka garage space) to house your new 'vehicle', plus, the tow behind trailer that you'll need to bring the machine to the nearest shop for maintenance. And above all, that new 4x4 that you'll need to tow that trailer with.
I've got about 1.2 an acre, and haven't turned the key on any of my machines this year so far. Been using the push/walk behind old Craftsman rotary from the dump.
Before you plunk down any money, take a test ride, and see if you really like it. My neighbor bought a new 'snapper' type machine un-driven. He got it home, mowed half his lawn, and put the new machine in the barn. Took out his old one and finished the lawn. The new machine seemed to be top heavy and seemed like it wanted to start to tip over. The steering was not as tight as he wanted.
I presume you're getting the bagger, especially since you're from up 'north 'here. (leaves, acorns, chestnuts, branches, leaves)
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