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Hello everyone!

I got a new GT5000 a few weeks ago and I am thinking about taking it back. I had an LT for 8 years I was happy with from Sears, however the fender only hydro control on this GT5000 is not making me happy. Have any of you new GT owners found this to be a problem? Everything else on the tractor is okay. The triple 48" deck cuts great, the Briggs runs smooth and quiet, over all I am happy with everything but the hydro control.

I'm a Cub Cadet collector, That is International made ones, If I do return the gt I am going to replace it with a 2544 cub.


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Personal choice...

The foot vs hand thing is a personal choice. I like the fender hydro :fing32:, but seems most prefer foot.

I have a question for you Toppdogg, or anyone else who may be able to answer.

I took my GT 5000 out for a spin today. I actually bought it about 6 weeks ago, but I have not had a reason to use it yet.

I have a problem with part of the hydro linkage hitting an idler pulley under the tractor when it is pushed full ahead. It makes a **** of a noise! :eek:

Is there an easy adjustment for this, or is something assembled wrong? Have any of you ever had that happen?

I did not assemble this tractor. It was a floor model (the last one they had.)

I am going to have Sears fix it since it is under warranty, but I am just curious if anyone else has had this issue!

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I have a GT5000 and I have found the "stupid fender mounted motion control lever" to be a pain in the *** on more than one occassion especially while trying to control an implement and the forward/rearward motion of the GT5000. I've had it for two years now and I have pretty much gotten used to it and it is not a problem anymore.

Not to be critical - I guess it's just how a person's make up is but to me the fact that you've only had the tractor a short time and haven't gotten use to the fender lever isn't a reason to take it back. I think you'll find over time that the GT5000 is a rugged, reliable tractor and that you'll be pleased with it overall. Just my two cents.

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Hi ToppDogg
My craftsman GT is a few years old but I have the 6 speed. Overall, I like the tractor. No problems, does everything I ask it to do.

Seems the least they could have done is mount the tranny lever on the opposite side of the deck lift arm. This way your left hand could control speed while your right hand controlled the attachment.(and you steer with your knees! ROF )

Kinda hard to compare with the old cubs. I have a few old Bolens 1050's and there really isn't much comparison to today's entry level GT's
 

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mbkerk -

If you're sure that the Hydro Linkage is contacting the idler pulley then you could try to gently push the idler pulley aside. It sounds like an easy fix but if you are a little nervous about trying to realign the idler pulley, then by all means call Sears out to fix it.

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I have a GT5000 with the fender mounted hydro lever. For me, it hasn't been an issue. Why? I've only owned fender mounted hydros (last before the GT was a Sabre), and I've simply gotten used to them. I like being able to keep my hand resting on the lever, sort of a natural position for me I guess.

I do have the electric lift on the sleeve hitch, and have used it to grade my drive with the rear grader blade attachment, as well as a test run with the moldboard plow in my garden plot. I've had no real issues adjusting to driving, raising/lowering, and controlling speed.

In short, I think its more of what you get used to and giving yourself time to adjust, as Ed said. Also, I tend to agree with Ed that you should probably give it some time to adjust and see how you like it in the end.
 

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Thanks everyone for the replies. I agree with everyone about taking my time with it and see. Just need to make sure before the 30 day return is over. :banghead3

I do like the the electric linear actuators, I'm trying to find a good source for the bear linear. Going to call them on Monday and see what they will sell one to me for. I want to go with the 6" and then make the top plate adjustable rather then how sears does it.


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ToppDogg

USN ED!

I was in the Navy for 9 years. OS1 (SW) :smilie_fl
My dad was also on a similar DD to yours. USS Black DD-666 a Fletcher class Destroyer.
I was on FF-1071 and FFG-37 both stationed at Pearl Harbor.
 

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mberk:

I have not had that problem. Sounds like USN_ED said it perfect!


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I don't own one of these tractors, but I've had a couple Bolens hydros with foot controls. For the most part I liked the foot control, but often when mowing I wished it was a hand control that I could just set and leave it. It was more of an issue when I put my boy on it to mow. He would gradually keep speeding up until he was at full speed and I'd have to go tell him to slow down.
 

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Thanks!

Ed... It is the linkage and the back idler. I can see it from behind the tractor.
I am not sure if there is an adjustment, or if I need to "bend" the idler bracket to fix it.

I am not at all afraid to fix it myself, but since I won't need it for a few weeks I think I'll let Sears do it.

I'll let you know what I find out.

Thanks!

BTW, Toppdogg and ED... My twin daughters are both going into the Navy in September! My Dad and 2 of my Uncles are Navy Vet's.
Thank you guys, for your service!
 

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A lot of talk about foot vs hand controls. I don't mind the hand controls myself, but mine [Ingersoll's] has it on the dash, like a shifter, or directanl lever on a car, so you realy hardly have to remove your hand from the wheel. its right there. Never used a fender mount one.
 

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I got the GT5K 26hp /48" hydro early last summer. I had always owned hand lever manuals, so the lever is what I'm used to, and the hydro was "died and gone to heaven" compared to stopping and shifting. A lot of it depends on what the major use of the machine is. I spend 90% of seat time mowing. so it work fine for me. If you keep the deck off majority of time and use for attachments as some have, could slow you down some.

I did use the dozer blade this winter several times, and still was not inconvenient. Only time I saw as a hassle was cultivating the garden, trying to use sleeve hitch arm to control depth, and speed up at the same time. Then could have used third arm, but for a twice a year job, its still no big deal.
 

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mbkerk & ToppDogg -

mbkerk -

I think you would only need to bend the idler bracket a bit but believe you are smart to let Sears sort it out since you have the time.

A word of advice for the girls. They are going to find the Navy a completely different experience than anything they have experienced so far in their life. The best advice I can pass on to them from my 24 years in the Navy is ""do what they are told to do when they are told to do it"". Even if it seems pointless or whatever just do it and don't question it. This is especially important while they are in boot camp but they will be well served if they follow that advice for the duration of their Navy experience.

ToppDogg -

Great to hear of your Navy experience. Pass my regards on to your Dad.

ED
 

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I believe I have confused a few people with my question. The foot control I'm refering to is the old way the Craftman Hydro's were. You still set your speed via the fender control but you can slow down and speed up with the use of the foot/brake control. This new model has taken that away, leaving only the fender control. The brake is also something to get use too. Not sure when Sears started doing this, my 9 year old LT had both.

In simple the oldway was much better!!! :fing10:

Go Figure. The wife has always said I can never be happy! I just like things perfect!
Even with Computers... Took me 15 years to switch to the Mac! :00000060:

However, the Mac did not get interesting until OS X! Love my G5!

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Idler / Linkage problem fixed!

Ed, (and others)

I got the problem fixed with the hydro linkage rubbing on the idler pulley that I talked about earlier in this thread.

As you can see below, I added a couple of spacers to raise the bracket for the idler arm up a bit and that cured the problem.

I think this is something that got missed in the assembly of the tractor at AYP.

The call to Sears to have it done under warranty did not go as well as I expected. They would have come out and fixed it, but there is a 1-time waiver of the $20 trip fee, and I wanted to save that for something more serious (if that ever arises!) Apparently Sears does not have a service center in Fargo. They told me they just order the parts and come to my home to fix it, no matter what is wrong... therefore the trip fee.

Anyway, it was a good experience. Only took about an hour... and now I know a little more about how it is put together! Pictures below!

This shows where the linkage was rubbing the idler, only when the hydro lever was full ahead... This part of the linkage is what the brake linkage contacts to pull the hydro into neutral when the brake is depressed.





This shows the bolt I took out and added a couple of washers to lift the whole idler assembly.





This shows the idler assembly bolted back on. Picture is taken from the right side ahead of the rear tire.




By the way, where the fender assembly bolts to the running boards, there were only flat washers on one side. Where tin meets tin I think there should be a flat washer on each side. I added them. You might want to check your rigs... It could start to crack if there is not enough support because of the missing washer... Just my opinion!


Thanks for your advice guys!
 

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Mark -

The grandkids are in town and I haven't been posting much. We're on the way out the door now to go to the movies.

Nice fix on the idler pulley and good tip on the washers for the fenders.

ED
 

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Thanks Ed

Thanks Ed... I am glad I did it myself. I like to know whats going on under there!

BTW... I got your PM too. Family comes first!

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boy you guys got me thinking about a foot control add on for the sears 5000/husky2548. I think will a little motivation I could rig up something
 
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