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Ok, so this isn't scut specific but I thought I would ask. The previous owner cut down five trees at some point. You can see that they had tried to burn the stumps out, but like a lot of what they did they didn't put much effort into it. I have started the process of burning the one at the edge of the driveway but it's slow going. So far a little diesel fuel and charcoal and sticks piled up have worked the best but the rain last night killed the smoldering fire I had going. I used my bx to dig out around the stump but it certainly doesn't have the testicles to dig the stump out. So what do you guys do? This stump is sitting right where I am planning on building the garage so I need it gone soon.

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Digging a stump out depends on the size of stump. I've found that the hoe on my MF GC2310 can break the roots if you dig the equivalent of 3 stump diameters away from the stump. That can still leave a big root ball with associated dirt on a big stump. A garden hose or pressure washer works great for reducing the amount of dirt on the root ball to make it lighter and offer places to hook a chain to pull it out.

Note that a hoe can pull harder than the tractor that it is attached to, and the bucket of the hoe will pull the most. The bucket cylinder will pull about 4000 lb for the length of its stroke when the rod end is connected to the chain.

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All about the size of the stump and type of wood. I've dug a few out, but nothing over about 12" diameter or so. Smaller ones I just cut off at the surface and mow over them.

If you're talking about something 20" or more, you'll need a bigger machine. Or a lot more time. Some will bore 1" holes with a wood auger bit on a drill, then drop stump rotting chemicals in and let them work for a year. Supposedly they degrade the wood to make it easily to break up.


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55 gallon metal barrel placed around and over stump. Saturate with diesel 2-3 times per week and place lid or other covering after saturating. After one month, build a fire inside metal barrel with stump in it. Several bags of cheap charcoal work quite well. You want the fire & heat contained right around the stump. This will burn and smolder for several days as the stump and roots are consumed. Fill barrel with nearby wood debris, easy way to clean up area. After heat is gone, remove barrel and fill ash filled hole with suitable material.

Or rent a large tracked stump grinder, 25 -35 HP, for about $1,000 a week and do all of them in that time.
 

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Since you’re building over that spot, it needs to be removed completely. Continue to dig out around it until you are able to pull it out.
Agreed 100%. If you are building over this stump, it needs to be gone completely. They you'll need to thoroughly compact any fill used, otherwise you risk settling at some point down the road.
 

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Once ground below the root ball, then use your loader to remove ALL the chips and roots.
And then fill and compact. And I'd still let it sit a year or so just in case.

Rent a stump grinder. There is no easier way.
 

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The stump sits just outside of where I will be building. The roots might be of a bigger concern than the actual stump as far as the building goes.
It's hard to tell from the picture but the stump is probably two feet across and I believe it is oak.


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If you've already dug that far, keep digging. Use a chain saw to section the stump and cut it out in pieces. Once you get it below the surface, fill and compact the hole, but be aware it may settle over time. If you're not building over top of it, settling will be less of an issue.

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I took out a massive oak stump a couple years ago, about 36 inch dia.
Like Obscured said, I sectioned the stump with a chainsaw.
I had a HUGE hole dug around the stump to break/cut the roots.
I also used a dewalt 20v sawzall with a pruning blade on some roots, an axe, lots of sharpened chains for the chainsaw, as soon as a chain got dull I swapped it out...I think that when I got my HF chainsaw sharpener.
There were alot of large TAP roots off roots.
Thee roots had grown around a very large rock also, but that came out early in the battle.
Cleaned out the nooks and crannies with an old paint brush, long cold chisels, pry bar, crow bars to get stones out.
Some times I had to partially fill the hole in to get a good position for the Back Hoe.
When I finally broke the stump free, I had to dig a ramp to drag it out of the hole.

I get to burn that tree in the wood stove next season.
 

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55 gallon metal barrel placed around and over stump. Saturate with diesel 2-3 times per week and place lid or other covering after saturating. After one month, build a fire inside metal barrel with stump in it. Several bags of cheap charcoal work quite well. You want the fire & heat contained right around the stump. This will burn and smolder for several days as the stump and roots are consumed. Fill barrel with nearby wood debris, easy way to clean up area. After heat is gone, remove barrel and fill ash filled hole with suitable material.

Or rent a large tracked stump grinder, 25 -35 HP, for about $1,000 a week and do all of them in that time.
I've done this with good results but I had a center section from those large wire spools. Same idea just larger diameter. I laid 5-6 bricks around to get it an inch or so off the ground for air flow.
It would burn for days then you'd see roots burning underground.

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Yeah, depends on what your time is worth, and how soon the garage project is starting... Stump grinder rental is definitely $$$, but boy its fun, and then the thing is gone... Or at least the main chunk of the stump. If you need the roots gone, you can chase them with the stump grinder, or you can try all the other long-term decaying methods. I like either the stump grinder or my chainsaw or my sawzall with a 8" wood blade on it..
 

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The Gents who have rented and used stump grinders would never even consider going about stump removal any other way, unless maybe you own a heavy equipment company.

A $100 daily rental fee, or even $200 for a weekend and a whole lot of your stumps will be history.

This pic is just to show there is no stump too big. It measured about 60" across at 3' high, and 8' across the exposed roots, right at the ground. I had been quoted $800 (a hundred bucks a foot) to remove it.

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In the first pic I had already ground out and backfilled the surface root runners for better access.

The stump was then chainsawed off about 1' above the surface and I used my 13hp Rayco grinder to remove everything to atleast 1' below the surface.

Admittedly, that particular stump took this old man all day, including hand loading about 20 bucketfuls of grinding chips for transport to the compost pile, and backfilling the hole with topsoil.

This grinder is my own, but if you rent one, just be sure it has been recently sharpened "before" you take it home.
 

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This is what I used to get rid of those 100+ stumps on my property. Some of them were over 3' diameter at the top and 4-5 ft at the bottom.


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Bluebird, 11-hp, 14" wheel
 

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This is what I used to get rid of those 100+ stumps on my property. Some of them were over 3' diameter at the top and 4-5 ft at the bottom.


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Bluebird, 11-hp, 14" wheel
Looks very similar. Not sure what size the cutting wheel is but this Rayco does seem to have a much heavier wheel than the ones you see at the rental places. Takes it a few seconds to get up to speed, but then never slows down while cutting.

8 cutters, 4 each side and it loves wood.:tango_face_devil:

Pic was taken before I removed and sharpened them

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I slice big cuts in them with chainsaw then soak with the oil I get from riding mowers that the fuel has flooded the crankcase and burn them several times then hit with sledge hammer.
 
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