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There is a site that maps out where to get non e fuel which is handy. Sadly i am guilty of using whatever 87 blend is at the pump. Going forward i want to be a bit more careful of what i put in my motors. How do you know for sure? I have never been to a gas station and seen a pump labeled that it didnt have ethanol in it. Should i be using a additive instead to cover myself? I have an older gilson snowblower with a cast iron sleeved briggs and i want it happy and healthy. Its other than the hills but it is a tank. I am also working to get an older JD60 riding mower going as well as an old allis b110 as time allows. Just not enough time in the day for all the project but it sure is fun.

 

[Dixon Driver]

In Minnesota you'll generally find non ethanol gas listed as non-oxygenated and for sport or marine use. Typically it's 91 - 93 octane.

 

[9297oldram]

You usually have to ask the Station Manager if it has Ethanol in it. I've heard that the Premium grade usually has the least amount in it.

 

[Cat385B]

What’s your zip code?

All Kwik Trip stations have non-oxy fuel, Holiday is catching up, SA and Casey’s are a bust.

Non-oxygenated or recreational gasoline is typical labeling for non-ethanol fuel.

BP and Victory stations usually have the good stuff, also.

 

[burned300]

Shell gas has never let me down, even storing it for 4 months over winter. ( that's when I'm using Diesel )

 

[Willscary]

www.pure-gas.org

 

[Steve Urquell]

Our Murphy stations have non-etoh 91 octane pumps. They are labeled "this contains no ethanol" or something to that effect.

 

[MARK (LI)]

It depends where you live as to whether it is available or not...high density population areas simply are not allowed by EPA regulations to have it

 

[Dixon Driver]

I'm lucky, my local Mills Fleet-Farm has non ethanol in 89 and 91 octane. I only run the 89 in all my gas engines.

 

[rhenning]

My speech again. Ethanol gas is not the problem but old gas is. In WI next to MN we have had ethanol mandated since 1983. I just started in 1983 when I fill my fuel can I add Stabil a and a bit of Seafoam to the gas. Actually I started that before the ethanol as regular gas even back the would get old and crud up carburetor over the Winter. I use that can for all my power equipment and for making the mix for my 2 strokes. 36 years later and I cannot remember the last time I had a fuel related problem. It is how you prep the gas and take care of it that is the problem. Some of my chain saws sit almost a year before use. Roger

 

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THanks. I have some kwik trip stores not to far away. I plan to go there from now on. Looks like they have it. Sadly....my old gilson has likely been using the garbage gas for quite a few years now. I go over things and grease everything each spring. I need to pop a new fuel filter on it before this next season and i should really check the compression on that old timer. ITs been a great machine. Starts 2nd pull every time. Those old cast iron briggs with the updraft carbs are amazing machines.

 

[Cat385B]

Kwik Trip usually puts them on the outside edge pumps, it will have a red label above the selection button.
$3.21 this morning.

 

[Willscary]

A lot of Cenex stations here in Wisconsin (not all though) have 87 octane top tier 100% gasoline. It is all I run in all motors unless I travel to an area that does not have it and I need fuel. $2.95/gal today.

 

[TobyU]

My speech again. Ethanol gas is not the problem but old gas is. In WI next to MN we have had ethanol mandated since 1983. I just started in 1983 when I fill my fuel can I add Stabil a and a bit of Seafoam to the gas. Actually I started that before the ethanol as regular gas even back the would get old and crud up carburetor over the Winter. I use that can for all my power equipment and for making the mix for my 2 strokes. 36 years later and I cannot remember the last time I had a fuel related problem. It is how you prep the gas and take care of it that is the problem. Some of my chain saws sit almost a year before use. Roger

Back in the 80s I likes the briggs diaphragm carbs better than the tecumsehs because every year most tecumseh ones would need the bowl removed and dumped out to get the water or grease bubble out. The briggs would start and run after a few tried or flip on its side or use stating fluid and it would clear out and run.

No ethanol then just old and poorly stored gas.

 

[c5rulz]

Ethanol absorbs water from the air, and dissolves rubber components and consequently destroys carb components. It is horrible. I helped out one Winter at the local chain saw shop and half the implements that came in had fuel related problems. As a matter of course, the 1st thing to do before attempting to run a chainsaw was dump the gas and put in fresh to take one variable out of the equation.

 

[Nouveau Redneck]

Ethanol absorbs water from the air, and dissolves rubber components and consequently destroys carb components.

That only applies to carburetors designed before they started adding ethanol to fuel. Once ethanol was being added to gasoline all engine manufacturers switched over to components that look like rubber but are not, and are impervious to the effects of ethanol.

Yes, it does absorb some water from the air, but if the air is humid enough for that to happen then you will get free water building up in the fuel system in the form of condensation, which is worse. The product called "dry-gas", which you add to your gas tank when you get water in it, is nothing but ethanol, which allows the water to go into suspension with the gas/ethanol mixture and so it can pass through the fuel system and through the combustion chamber in small enough concentration that the engine can continue to run and the water will work its way out. If you have condensation in your fuel system, the water eventually sinks to he bottom and when it gets deep enough it gets sucked into the line to the carb as pure water and then the engine won't run at all.

 

[Flaken]

Kinda curious what you refer to when you say "if the air is humid enough"? Down here in northern Florida, the air is always humid enough, I've seen 95% RH even when it's not raining. But I don't use ethanol gas in anything.

 

[c5rulz]

That only applies to carburetors designed before they started adding ethanol to fuel. Once ethanol was being added to gasoline all engine manufacturers switched over to components that look like rubber but are not, and are impervious to the effects of ethanol.

Can you explain why a 2 year old chainsaw"s fuel filter is lying in the bottom of the tank because the fuel line has liquified from ethanol gas.

 

[Skwirl]

I had my splitter not starting the other year. Took the shut off valve out to clean. Found small pieces of rubber stuck in it.
The ethanol deteriorated the inside of the supply hose.
If your doing fuel hose, get R9 or better. The ethanol won't, or shouldn't deteriorate the R9.

 

[glenn27]

Around here in the area--all marina's and small airports sell the non-ethenol gas--...usually @ a regular station where I buy mine--the pump is (usually) sitting off by itself--and labeled such.
Most are services/filled by independant suppliers--not in a big tanker load.

glenn