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With the ground temps in the 70's, if planted now, if planted right before a nice 1/2" rain, or even you watering it in, you'll likely see it spiking out of the ground in 3-4 days, where it normally takes 7-10 days in cooler soil. I planted some Silver King, approx. 75 day white corn,and Roma II bush beans several years ago on July 1, right before a nice soaking 1/2" rain, and had corn in tassel, and beans blooming in 30 days. Started picking both, 3 weeks later.

Except for cole crops, and a few cool weather vegetables, like peas, etc., other items such as sweet corn, beans, and tomatoes, won't do well until ground temps warm up to in the 70º range. I rarely plant anything here in Central Ohio until Memorial Day, unless we've had an unusually warm Spring. Frost date here is May 15, and we've had 2 killing frost's the 3rd week of May, in the last 4 years.
Hey, this is really neat. We three being in IL, IN, and OH. We need some good light rain now. Crazy all that rain now in need for the most part.
 

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if you have like a 65 day variety it should be okay but anything in the 80s is probably too late
65 day corn will tassel out knee high here with all the heat that time of year. Growing degree days go up quickly in the heat. It's just the opposite here. We have to plant a 75 to 80 day variety. It mature in 60-65 days here in central Indiana and have normal growth. The heat cuts the growing time and maturity time way down here.
Just replanted corn today. Bought the 65 day variety. My wife had planted 80 day before but only 10-12 came up.
Right after replant I watered it. Really hoping for 3 rows of sweet corn. FYI in central IL.

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it's good that you watered it and you might want to keep doing it if you have the means and ability to.

The best corn I ever had my father-in-law gave me a couple jugs of 45 nitrogen urea. he said dig a ditch between the rows down the stream small stream of it in the ditch and then buried I was giving corn way to everybody

You do that after it comes up and it's a few inches tall probably go buy urea if you have a farmer friend
 

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it's good that you watered it and you might want to keep doing it if you have the means and ability to.

The best corn I ever had my father-in-law gave me a couple jugs of 45 nitrogen urea. he said dig a ditch between the rows down the stream small stream of it in the ditch and then buried I was giving corn way to everybody

You do that after it comes up and it's a few inches tall probably go buy urea if you have a farmer friend
You can buy it at Rural King where the stores are available. I buy it every year there. Only like $15-$17 for I think 40 LB bags. They have lawn fertilizer only with no lawn chemicals in it. It is urea like the 33%. The bag has a very small amount of potash and phosphorous in it. You can also take a five gallon bucket to any farm chemical-fertilizer business and they will fill it for you. I think it is 33% as well. $15-$20 range. (You can get any dry fertilizer from them in your bucket). I sprinkler it like salt then work it in the soil a couple times if I have to. Works great. Can hardly grow corn without it. Many tell me they never have any luck with sweet corn and I ask if they put any nitrogen on it and they say no. Some don't even put fertilizer on it. Some I've told are now adding it and grow a great crop. Plants 12-15 inches apart harvest population in 30" to 36" rows have really nice size ears. The sizes just like the descriptions say for each variety. I make plantings that will have around 5-7 dozen over a few days and make periodic plantings all summer.
 

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it's good that you watered it and you might want to keep doing it if you have the means and ability to.

The best corn I ever had my father-in-law gave me a couple jugs of 45 nitrogen urea. he said dig a ditch between the rows down the stream small stream of it in the ditch and then buried I was giving corn way to everybody

You do that after it comes up and it's a few inches tall probably go buy urea if you have a farmer friend
You can buy it at Rural King where the stores are available. I buy it every year there. Only like $15-$17 for I think 40 LB bags. They have lawn fertilizer only with no lawn chemicals in it. It is urea like the 33%. The bag has a very small amount of potash and phosphorous in it. You can also take a five gallon bucket to any farm chemical-fertilizer business and they will fill it for you. I think it is 33% as well. $15-$20 range. (You can get any dry fertilizer from them in your bucket). I sprinkler it like salt then work it in the soil a couple times if I have to. Works great. Can hardly grow corn without it. Many tell me they never have any luck with sweet corn and I ask if they put any nitrogen on it and they say no. Some don't even put fertilizer on it. Some I've told are now adding it and grow a great crop. Plants 12-15 inches apart harvest population in 30" to 36" rows have really nice size ears. The sizes just like the descriptions say for each variety. I make plantings that will have around 5-7 dozen over a few days and make periodic plantings all summer.
T. Cruit you should do this to yours if I were still growing corn I would definitely do this. Corn loves nitrogen I don't know any Farmers that don't sidedress their corn with some type of nitrogen. Some use liquid which is I think 80% and has to be buried or will dissipate
 

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I'm getting ready to plant Silver King this weekend, good to plant late due to it's good late disease resistance, and a couple others over the next couple weeks or so. Planting beans too.
Keep an eye on it, and see how far I'm off. If you watered it in, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I've had soil samples tested on my garden 2 times in the last 6 years, and they say it near perfect on nutrients, although high in phosphorous. That's just from being in a garden space since 1953, and using 12-12-12 as a starter fertilizer for that many years has made an abundance of it. Extension agent says it takes a long time for it to be used up. He said it won't hurt anything, but will grow some great beans, which it does. I do give it a good trickle of triple 12 out of a watering can in the rows. I don't side dress anything, never rally needed to, and have pretty decent results.

You guy's can have my share of rain for another week or so. I finished doing the Florida weave on my caged tomatoes last evening. When doing the bottom run, kneeling down, my knee got wet through the leaf mulch, so there is plenty of moisture there yet.

Going out here in a minute, and do some spraying with BT & Spinosad, to keep the little critters at bay. I'll use some soap mixed in for a surfactant, and maybe keep the Deer from eating on things.

I saw the large doe that has been wreaking havoc on things last evening. I sat down to take a break about dusk, and she literally came running down out of the pines, from the neighbors. She was within 50 feet, and did not see meat first. When she did, she was bobbing her head up and down, trying to figure out "what" I was, I guess. In a loud voice, I asked her, "What are you doing..?" Darned if she didn't take 2 steps closer... I kept talking to her, then finally told her to "GIT..!!" I had to yell at her a half dozen times, before she made like a bleating/squeal noise,and took of back through the pines. I'd imagine she paid another visit, after I fed the horses,and things calmed down. Better go check, and see if there is anything left to spray...
 

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I should probably spray some BT as well and ordered some. Last year my tomatoes got ravaged by tomato hornworms.

I picked off well over a hundred over the summer. Never seen anything like it.

Pulled my first zucchini off yesterday. this guy got a little bigger than I like. surprise me actually I was mowing and saw it.
 

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I picked 7 zucchini in the last couple of days, when they start to come on they really come, now it's time to make a patch of zucchini relish.
 

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I like to slice Zucchini just under 1/4" thick, marinate in Italian dressing for about 20-30 minutes, then grill on medium high heat for approx. 4 minutes on each side. A grilling basket is a big help. 8-10 slices of that, and a nice grilled boneless pork chop, with a decent rub applied, and I'm in hog heaven...
 

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I like to slice Zucchini just under 1/4" thick, marinate in Italian dressing for about 20-30 minutes, then grill on medium high heat for approx. 4 minutes on each side. A grilling basket is a big help. 8-10 slices of that, and a nice grilled boneless pork chop, with a decent rub applied, and I'm in hog heaven...
I'm going to try that with a zuke. Sounds great!
 

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I like to slice Zucchini just under 1/4" thick, marinate in Italian dressing for about 20-30 minutes, then grill on medium high heat for approx. 4 minutes on each side. A grilling basket is a big help. 8-10 slices of that, and a nice grilled boneless pork chop, with a decent rub applied, and I'm in hog heaven...
I'm grilling zucchini tonight so I will try it with the dressing, normally I just mix a little olive oil and some season salt and sometimes throw a little BBQ rub on.
 

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I like to slice Zucchini just under 1/4" thick, marinate in Italian dressing for about 20-30 minutes, then grill on medium high heat for approx. 4 minutes on each side. A grilling basket is a big help. 8-10 slices of that, and a nice grilled boneless pork chop, with a decent rub applied, and I'm in hog heaven...
I'm grilling zucchini tonight so I will try it with the dressing, normally I just mix a little olive oil and some season salt and sometimes throw a little BBQ rub on.
I need get my grill back in action. This sounds awesome.
 

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I realize there are a 1001 ways to grow things. This is my new favorite.

https://permaculturenews.org/2010/08/03/the-art-and-science-of-making-a-hugelkultur-bed-transforming-woody-debris-into-a-garden-resource/

Pictured is a new mound I did this year and a raised bed I did last year using hugelkultar methods on both.

The first pic was taken 6/2 the second 3 taken today. You can over plant a small space and still get huge yeilds

I haven't had to use those irrigation lines from my rain barrel this year obviously
 

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I realize there are a 1001 ways to grow things. This is my new favorite.

https://permaculturenews.org/2010/08/03/the-art-and-science-of-making-a-hugelkultur-bed-transforming-woody-debris-into-a-garden-resource/

Pictured is a new mound I did this year and a raised bed I did last year using hugelkultar methods on both.

The first pic was taken 6/2 the second 3 taken today. You can over plant a small space and still get huge yeilds

I haven't had to use those irrigation lines from my rain barrel this year obviously
Wow everything looks great! I have planted as few as 16 sweet corn seeds in a circle in the past about 12-15 inches apart and got great ears. Trying to determine how small of a planting you can have and still get good corn. Otherwise I do the rows.
 

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Thanks rando

I'm sitting here literally right now eating zucchini that I fried last night with Italian dressing and also some of this sauce and both of them are amazing.

You're right on with the Italian dressing DJ

The key to great Left over zucchini is a toaster oven ?
 

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Glad you like it..!! I'm a little particular when it comes to my Italian dressing. I prefer the "Good Seasons" brand, where I can control the liquid product used to make it. I use extra virgin olive oil for a lower smoke point when grilling, although you still get smoke. And a couple different types of vinegar. One is Red Wine, the other Balsamic. The Balsamic gives the dressing a little bolder taste. They have like astarter kit they carry in groceries that has a cruet, and seasoning packets if you care to try it. I just buy the 4 pack seasoning packets, and I seem to go through quite a few of those, LOL... I love that stuff..!!

Although, I do grill most of mine in a grilling basket. I just marinate the slices in the dressing, in a, usually 1 gallon zip lock bag for 20-30 minutes, then grill approx. 3 minutes on each side, on medium/high heat. Just until you get those black stripes on them, from the grilling basket.

I do the same with snap peas, but if you don't have large ones like the Marvel Melting peas, the or they are too small, and will fall through the wires of the basket. I had bought a grilling wok for the smaller ones, but since growing the Marvel Melting peas, I now just use the grinning basket. You can adjust it to hold them in place. Doubt I get any this year, I have a doe Deer that loves most of that stuff too, and has eaten my peas off for the 5th time now. I dust everything with hydrated lime, but, late night rains (downpours) wash it off, and she's smart enough to know this.
 

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Thanks rando

I'm sitting here literally right now eating zucchini that I fried last night with Italian dressing and also some of this sauce and both of them are amazing.

You're right on with the Italian dressing DJ

The key to great Left over zucchini is a toaster oven ?
That Don Pancho Cilantro Lime Crema sounds good, but where did you buy it? I can't find it anywhere near me or on the net.
 

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After testing my soil at the new house it was clear I had to do something since it was deficient in everything. I spread some triple 12 and then hauled manure from the cattle farm across the road. As a result of that I am dealing with an outbreak of spiny pigweed. I ended up spreading buckwheat over the entire garden which has helped somewhat to suppress the pigweed. I hate to be dealing with the pigweed but the soil was in such bad condition I had to do something.
Outside of that, the tomatoes have finally started turning. We have cucumbers coming out of our ears and way too many spaghetti squash. For some reason the zucchini is dying off early this year. Usually I can pick well into September before it dies off. The corn is growing good and it won't be long before I can pick some.
The plan is to build a chicken tractor and put the birds over the garden and let them take care of the pigweed issue. If not then they should at least work the ground over and fertilize it well.

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The plan is to build a chicken tractor and put the birds over the garden and let them take care of the pigweed issue. If not then they should at least work the ground over and fertilize it well.

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yeah buddy chicken tractor!
 

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After testing my soil at the new house it was clear I had to do something since it was deficient in everything. I spread some triple 12 and then hauled manure from the cattle farm across the road. As a result of that I am dealing with an outbreak of spiny pigweed. I ended up spreading buckwheat over the entire garden which has helped somewhat to suppress the pigweed. I hate to be dealing with the pigweed but the soil was in such bad condition I had to do something.
Outside of that, the tomatoes have finally started turning. We have cucumbers coming out of our ears and way too many spaghetti squash. For some reason the zucchini is dying off early this year. Usually I can pick well into September before it dies off. The corn is growing good and it won't be long before I can pick some.
The plan is to build a chicken tractor and put the birds over the garden and let them take care of the pigweed issue. If not then they should at least work the ground over and fertilize it well.

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Are you going to plant some more zucchini? You're in zone 6 down there aren't you? I just planted some along with green beans and the late corn I planted last week and I'm north in IN in zone 5.
I've had that problem with the zucks dying off early. My problem has been usually a worm that gets in the stem and kills it off. Slice the stem open down the middle and you might be able to find it. Have to treat the soil with an organic insecticide like Diatomaceous Earth, Rotenone, Pyrethrin or that real granular stuff you can get that yards are treated with. I suppose the D. Earth is maybe the best since you can mix it the best in the soil.
 

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I am in zone 6 but I doubt I will replant. I eat very little zucchini and the wife doesn't seem to be eating it much this year so it seems like a waste. But I have no doubt that I could replant and pick plenty more. Honestly I wasn't expecting much this year but have been pleasantly surprised so far. The soil in this area is pretty bad. Apparently our field next to our house once had cattle in it so I might have been better off planting there. Of course now we have plans to fence it in and maybe put a highland or two on it so won't be able to put a garden in then. By next year I think between this years garden and the buckwheat I should be good for next year if I can get the pigweed under control.

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