the switch is under the seat,,exposed to the weather 'sometimes' but the foam under that pretty yellow SHOULD NEVER FREEZE if I have to use it some freezing night and it won't run then its usless to me...seems like others have seen this same thing happen to me it IS a design flaw that the company needs to fix....my dealer is afraid that if he gives me a new seat that the factory won't give him the money for the seat he gave me....I'm going to check it in the morning before it warm up and if its still not working I'll call the dealer
Frozen seat,,,,,no run,,,?????
Well heres a new one....it has been very cold here in middle TN 16's at night went to use the 2305 to bring up more firewood, the tractor had been parked near where the wood is stored so I started it up while standing on the ground not in the seat,,,,,loaded up the wood, sat down in the seat and it felt funny...seemed very hard like maybe it was.....FROZEN....it was and because it was frozen the seat would not compress enough to activate the seat switch so ever time I put it in gear it would shut off.....bypassed the seat switch (did not want too do this) long enough to get the wood to the house then parked the tractor in the sun to thewe out ....dealer says to park it in the sun with the seat down.....I say Replace it for me now......
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its the inside foam that has water in it and the water frozen not allowing the seat to compress activating the switchi believe that even if they replace it, it will just do it again. if the seat is only frozen, it should be fine once thawed.
its the water in the seat foam that froze not allowing me to compress the seat down onto the switch.........I might suggest that the dealer "SIT ON IT" till its thawed outSorry :sorry1: this is almost comicial. Come on now, asking the dealer to correct a design flaw? Just have him set on the seat over night to keep it from freezing..... problem solved. :sorry1: :hide:
Couldn't resist.
Is there something you can do like put a tarp over the seat. Or there are some great products that they use on jeep ignitions that water proof the electronics. Come on this is MTF, we can fix it.
Correct...... its not the seat pan or the tilting off the seat that activates the pressure switch its the pressure of my butt on the seat cushion that puts pressure on the swtich,,, so if the foam freezes then there is no downward pressure(compession)...........I think I know HOW the water is getting in there there is a weep hole at the curve of the seat that when the seat is tilted forward water could get into the seat foam I can see the foam and soak into it, we do get a lot of rain here in the summer and I keep the seat tilted forwardIt's not the seat pan that activates the switch? On my newer JD's that's how it functions.
this is a safety problem as well if the switch does not work as advertised someone could get hurt real bad
there are two coil springs might be a better place to mount some kind of switch it would be exposed to the elements more .....dammed if we do,,,,dammed if we don't kinda thingWhile bypassing the switch will allow you to run we need to find a long-term fix. I see a few comments here that the newer JDs have the switch mounted between the pan and the body rather than inside the seat foam, my BX series mounts the switch next to the seat springs at the rear of the seat. This got me to wondering, how hard would it be to install a switch at the seat springs, or do these tractors not have springs?
sorry to disagree but it has everthing to do with water in the foam just before it got so cold I did notice that the the yellow covering and foam were not as plyable as normal which was ok i expected this to happen and the switch worked but the day it froze it was like sitting on an frozen pond no give at all.I dont think it has anything to do with water at all. As mentioned above the switch requires you to compress the foam to trigger the switch. The foam is just stiff when cold like many other things so you are sitting on top of the foam and not pushing down.
yesterday it was in the 60's here and there was water running out of the seat when I sat on it PLUS the seat failed the test where you put it in gear while its running and then stand up and its supposed to shut off the engine in 1/2 second it took 3-4 seconds to kill the engine,,,,,not a good thing....
i found the top part of seat cushion has pulled away from the seat bucket far enough to allow my to put my hand inside and feel the foam rubber,,,,will be calling the dealer monday to see what they want to do about this problem,,,,this a tractor that is 10 months oldWell if you have water in the seat then you cant expect the seat switch to work when it freezes. You are sitting on a brick
Guess the repair needs to be figuring out where the water is coming from !
this is my first John Deere tractor the name JOHN DEERE brings to mind "durable,,tuff,,leave it outside and it will live long and prosper and not have stupid problems within 10 months,,,,,,yes I love my Deere it has done amasing things around the property but I do expect it to work when I need it and not freeze up.....
talked to dealer today the NEW manager says that they will replace the seat under warrenty and replace the faulty kill switch. On the next seat I will have a cover so this does not happen again:trink39:Well heres a new one....it has been very cold here in middle TN 16's at night went to use the 2305 to bring up more firewood, the tractor had been parked near where the wood is stored so I started it up while standing on the ground not in the seat,,,,,loaded up the wood, sat down in the seat and it felt funny...seemed very hard like maybe it was.....FROZEN....it was and because it was frozen the seat would not compress enough to activate the seat switch so ever time I put it in gear it would shut off.....bypassed the seat switch (did not want too do this) long enough to get the wood to the house then parked the tractor in the sun to thewe out ....dealer says to park it in the sun with the seat down.....I say Replace it for me now......
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Got the new seat today but before i turned in the old one i decided to weigh it then i weighed the new dry seat.....the old one weighed 5 lbs more and it was frozen when i gave it to the dealer....so things have worked out for the better i will be covering the new seat and maybe the whole tractor.....thanks for all the comments......seaya:fing32::fing32:
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