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Michael
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I've been looking around for loaders again & not finding much within reasonable driving distance. Yesterday I came across this one which is only 10 minutes from my house. It comes with the tractor, which really doesn't have a value considering it's state of disassembly. (it's a Jacobsen GT14)

The loader is complete, according to the seller, and I will hopefully be able to see it this weekend. (The tractor is also supposedly complete but hard to tell)

How much cash should I take with me if I want to make an offer on it?

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OLD TIRED CDN. MECHANIC
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Man oh man, somebody must have given this guy a set of wrenches for Christmas.

That is a Johnson Workhorse 10TC, TC being twin cylinder as opposed to the earlier unicorn style centered single cylinder.

After working mine day in and day out since 2013 and it never complaining, and the tractor never complaining, I can tell you they are an excellent addition to any GT.

Besides being a well made product, I believe the key to their success and longevity is the "S" shape undercarriage extensions that attach directly to the rear axle housing.

It is not attached to the frame rails like so many others we see. There are 4 bolts attaching the loader to the forward portion of the tractor frame but they only support weight, not forward motion which is supplied directly from the rear axle.

I am so pleased with mine, I even made the 54" snow pusher (you see in the pic to the left) to replace the 38" bucket in the winter.

Were it here in Ontario, I would go with a thousand bucks in my pocket but of course bargain lower if you can. Remember too you are also saving probably a hundred in gas by not going for one a few hours away.

Bear in mind, cylinder condition and the pump are the most important considerations. Hoses are comparatively cheap and easy to replace.

Best of luck..... go for it.
 

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I agree, that's a 10tc. It doesn't look wide enough to be a 12a. Besides that they are very difficult to differentiate between.

I'd love to find a 12 or 12a for my 140.

Value is difficult. I've seen them in very nice shape on a good working tractor sell for $900, I'm still kicking myself for letting that get away, and I've seen just the loader go for over $1000 and up to about $1500.

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I paid $400 for my "Unicorn" model about three years ago. They are tough little loaders and to me, it would be worth $1,000. Maybe more if all of the undercarriage did not need to be heavily modified and the pump and hoses were in good shape. To repair or replace the hoses and pump would put you over $300 quickly so factor that in. Good luck!
 

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Well, the seller is asking $900 and I am hoping to get him down to around $700 but we will see. He won't sell the loader separate from the tractor, that way he gets the buyer to take all the junk with him. Hopefully it won't take too much to get it dragged up onto a trailer.
 

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In my neighborhood, if the hydraulics are all there and in decent shape it would be worth $1000 all day. Get him to throw in that old Bishmann tire machine to sweeten the deal if your hauling away all his junk.
 

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There is a tractor in the picture? :ROF....

I think 700 would be fair if it's all there including the pump.
 

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Well, the seller is asking $900 and I am hoping to get him down to around $700 but we will see. He won't sell the loader separate from the tractor, that way he gets the buyer to take all the junk with him. Hopefully it won't take too much to get it dragged up onto a trailer.
If the cylinders are not badly pitted, anything under his $900 would be a good deal and you could sell off at least some of the old Jake parts to recover a few bucks.

In his mind, he is no doubt thinking about what he paid, before he self destructed the whole thing.

The flip side is, without guys like him, guys like us would not find good deals on GT loaders.:tango_face_devil:

Loading it could be fun, hopefully you can put 4 wheels back under it.
 

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Anxious to hear

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Apparently, from what he had in the posting, the tractor was taken apart to repair a steering problem. I'm not sure in what universe you would need to remove the rear wheels to repair the steering, or the seat, or the fenders, or the......

Unfortunately he doesn't have time to show me until Sunday morning at the earliest so we will have to wait to see what happens.


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Depending on what you plan on putting it on and what bracketry is involved, you might want to fix up the Jake........if all the parts for it are there too

I would love to find some thing like that for $700.....even $900
 

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If its a steering problem, I can almost guarantee its the cross shaft on the steering box that broke.....I got a couple of deals on Ford LGTs because of this. I have welded a couple, not a hard fix
 

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Depending on what you plan on putting it on and what bracketry is involved, you might want to fix up the Jake........if all the parts for it are there too



I would love to find some thing like that for $700.....even $900


I'm not opposed to keeping it on the Jacobsen, provided there are enough parts are there to make it worthwhile, but I wouldn't want to stick a bunch of money into it to get it goi g agaib


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I'm not opposed to keeping it on the Jacobsen, provided there are enough parts are there to make it worthwhile, but I wouldn't want to stick a bunch of money into it to get it goi g agaib


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That Jacobsen is identical to my tube frame Ford LGT which is in fact made by Jacobsen.

With the Kohler K engine, shaft drive, Eaton 11 hydro and Peerless 2500 trans, it is as solid a base for that loader as you will find. In fact that loader is made specifically for it with no modifications necessary. It is well worth spending a few bucks on rather than chopping up the loader and trying to adapt it to another model.

The steering is just a common Ross steering box that is easily fixed or replaced.

This may well be your lucky day.:thThumbsU

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very interested in this post and wish you the best of luck in this endeavor, and like MrBeef said, "there's a tractor in that pic?". I went back and took another look, that is some steering repair job:tango_face_surprise
 

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That Jacobsen is identical to my tube frame Ford LGT which is in fact made by Jacobsen.



With the Kohler K engine, shaft drive, Eaton 11 hydro and Peerless 2500 trans, it is as solid a base for that loader as you will find. In fact that loader is made specifically for it with no modifications necessary. It is well worth spending a few bucks on rather than chopping up the loader and trying to adapt it to another model.



The steering is just a common Ross steering box that is easily fixed or replaced.



This may well be your lucky day.:thThumbsU



If your a Deere Guy at heart, just paint it green.:tango_face_devil:


It's not that I am or am not a Deere guy, but a tractor guy. One of the big reasons I lean more towards Deere, is that it is easier to find Machines & attachments for them around here than any other brand. There are other reasons but that is at the top of the list. Having said that, I also own a Simplicity and a Gilson. They both have their place.

If the Jacobsen is worthwhile, I can fix it. If not, I know where there is another complete running tractor for $150


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After I spent a crap load of money fixing basically every part of the same loader it works flawlessly. I was toying with the idea of putting it on a 318 or higher for the power steering but it does not look too be a very easy task as far at the pto pump is concerned. Working properly with a bit extra pressure on the new relief it will dig right down into the ground but no power steering is a deal breaker feels like you will rip the steering wheel off with nothing in the bucket haha.
 

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After I spent a crap load of money fixing basically every part of the same loader it works flawlessly. I was toying with the idea of putting it on a 318 or higher for the power steering but it does not look too be a very easy task as far at the pto pump is concerned. Working properly with a bit extra pressure on the new relief it will dig right down into the ground but no power steering is a deal breaker feels like you will rip the steering wheel off with nothing in the bucket haha.
I get by without PS no problem, if I always make sure the tractor is rolling while I'm trying to turn the wheel. Sometimes 3 point turns are necessary to reverse direction in tight quarters but you don't want to change direction quickly with a loaded bucket and high center of gravity anyway.

There were a few articles on PS conversion I considered, but I think in the long run it would ultimately just increase the wear and break factor on the front end components. Without PS, I'm forced to behave.

Just my nickle's worth.....
 

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I get by without PS no problem, if I always make sure the tractor is rolling while I'm trying to turn the wheel. Sometimes 3 point turns are necessary to reverse direction in tight quarters but you don't want to change direction quickly with a loaded bucket and high center of gravity anyway.

There were a few articles on PS conversion I considered, but I think in the long run it would ultimately just increase the wear and break factor on the front end components. Without PS, I'm forced to behave.

Just my nickle's worth.....
Unfortunately, I was not forced to behave. I figure out a way of doing it anyway. The steering box on my MF1655 needs a complete rebuild at about 1000 hours and is now overdue for its second rebuild. Steering with a heavy payload now means stopping, dropping the bucket (or payload) to the ground, turning the wheel, and lifting the bucket up before proceeding.

A heavy payload for that tractor is anything over 800 lb in the 210 lb bucket, a fairly common occurrence over the 22 years that I used it. Heaviest payload lifted and transported with the bucket . . . 1250 lb.

Tie rod ends also take severe punishment, whether with mechanical or power steering. I replaced at least one every year and tried to keep two new ones in the tool box at all times.

After 15 years of retirement, I'm no longer strong enough to steer that kind of payload with mechanical steering. The 1655 will have power steering when I get around to refurbishing it.
 
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