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Hi All...I am making good progress in getting a feel for the early Ford tractors (early as 8N and later up to the late 50's maybe into the 60's). I appreciate the x-ref to two summaries which are REAL helpful.

http://www.oldfordtractors.com/idhistory.htm and

http://www.mytractorforum.com/ford_tractor_specifications.htm

These two sights have made it possible to identify the various models I may be calling about for sale...with some specifics.

One thing I do not find on either of these two charts is much comment on the "size" dimensions (including weight) of the models as the progress...8N/Jubilee/NAA/6xx/2xxx?

Is there somewhere that dimensions and weights are also listed?

Or maybe it is because the size and weight did not change in any meaningful amount and the 2xxx series is still the same frame, etc as the 8N??

Thanks for all your help...Tom R
 

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(9N, 2N and) 8N:
Wheelbase: 70" at 48" tread width
Over-all length, front to drawbar: 115"
Over-all height: 54½"
Over-all width, normal tread: 64¾"
Tire size:
Front-standard: 4-19 4-ply
Rear-standard: 10-28 4-ply ("modern" size - 11.2x28)
Front tread: 48" to 76" in 4" steps
Rear tread: 48" to 76" in 4" steps
Ground clearance:
Front axle: 21"
Rear axle: 21"
Center: 13"
Turning circle radius (with use of brakes):
Made by outer front wheel: 8'
Made by centerline of tractor at rear axle: 3½'
Shipping weight (including gasoline, oil, water, tires filled with air, operator not included): 2,410#
Drawbar height: 8½" to 34¼", 18" standard setting
*8N specific*

......................| Final Gear | Speed in MPH ..........................|
Gear ratio ........| Reduction | 1500 RPM | 1750 RPM | 2000 RPM|
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Low (1st) ........| 73.33:1 ...| 2.77 .......| 3.23 .......| 3.69 ......|
Plowing (2nd) ...| 57.04:1 ...| 3.56 .......| 4.16 .......| 4.75 ......|
Cultivating (3rd) | 41.45:1 ...| 4.90 ......| 5.72 .......| 6.54 ......|
High (4th) ........| 19.86:1 ...| 10.23 .....| 11.93 .....| 13.64 .....|
Reverse ...........| 44.64:1 ...| 4.55 ......| 5.31 .......| 6.07 .......|
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*Note: 1500 RPM is recommended for power take-off tools. 1750 RPM is recommended when power take-off tools are not used.

Capacities - US measure
Fuel tank: 9 gallons standard, 1 gallon reserve, 10 gallons total
Engine oil pan (less filter absorption): 5 quarts
Transmission, hydraulic lift, and differential: 5 gallons
Cooling system: 12 quarts
Oil bath air cleaner: 1 pint
Belt pulley: 5/8 pint
Tire pressure:
10x28 4-ply (aka 11.2x28) - 12 psi
4x19 4-ply - 26 psi
(to be continued)
 

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NAA:
Wheelbase: 73 7/8" at 48" tread width
Over-all length, front to drawbar: 118 7/8"
Over-all height: 57¼"
Over-all width, normal tread: 64¾"
Tire size:
Front-standard: 4-19 4-ply or 4.00x19 4-ply or 5.50x16 4-ply
Rear-standard: 10-28 4-ply ("modern" size - 11.2x28)
Front tread: 48" to 76"
ear tread: 48" to 76"
Ground clearance:
Front axle: 21"
Rear axle: 21"
Center: 13"
Turning circle radius (with use of brakes):
Made by outer front wheel: 8' 10"
Made by centerline of tractor at rear axle: 3'8"
Shipping weight (including oil, water, tires filled with air, operator and gasoline not included): 2,550#
Drawbar height: 8½" to 34¼", 18" standard setting

......................| Final Gear | Speed in MPH ..........................|
Gear ratio ........| Reduction | 1500 RPM | 1750 RPM | 2000 RPM|
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Low (1st) ........| 73.33:1 ...| 2.68 .......| 3.13 .......| 3.58 ......|
Plowing (2nd) ...| 57.04:1 ...| 3.45 .......| 4.02 .......| 4.60 ......|
Cultivating (3rd) | 41.45:1 ...| 4.75 ......| 5.54 .......| 6.33 ......|
High (4th) ........| 19.86:1 ...| 9.90 .......| 11.55 .....| 13.20 .....|
Reverse ...........| 63.39:1 ...| 3.12 ......| 3.64 .......| 4.16 .......|
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*Note: 1500 RPM is recommended for power take-off tools. 1750 RPM is recommended when power take-off tools are not used.

Capacities - US measure
Fuel tank: 11 gallons total (1 gallon reserve)
Engine oil pan (less filter absorption): 4 quarts
Transmission: 5 quarts
Hydraulic lift: 8 quarts
Differential: 7.5 quarts
Cooling system: 15 quarts
Oil bath air cleaner: 1.3 pint
Belt pulley: .9 pints
Tire pressure:
10x28 4-ply (aka 11.2x28) - 12 psi
4x19 4-ply - 28 psi
5.50x16 4-ply - 28 psi

(to be continued)
 

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600 & 800:
Wheelbase: 75.2"
Over-all length:
Series 600: 121.4"
Series 800: 121.8"
Over-all width: 52" - 76"
Tire size:
Front-standard:
Series 600: 5.50x16 4-ply
Series 800: 6.00x16 4-ply
Rear-standard:
Series 600: 11.00x28 (modern 12.4x28)
Series 800: 12.00x28 (modern 13.6x28)

Front tread: 52" to 76"
Rear tread: 52" to 76"
Crop clearance: 21"
Shipping weight:
Series 600: 2,750#
Series 800: 2,850#
**I don't think that I'm going to write (not right now, anyway) all of the various transmission specifications in the 600/800**

Capacities - US measure
Fuel tank: 11 gallons (Series 600) or 14 gallons (Series 800)
Engine oil pan (including filter): 5 quarts
Transmission: 4-speed - 6½ quarts, 5-speed - 7½ quarts
Hydraulic lift: 9 quarts
Differential: 8½ quarts (Series 600) or 11½ quarts (Series 800)
Cooling system: 15 quarts
 

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Great info Steve...:thanku:

Seems like the size "creep" between 8N and 6xx/early 2xxx series was about 5" and 350#. Probably not enough to restrict "shopping" up to early 2000 series through 1964.

From my vantage...I would prefer Jubilee/NAA 1953/1954 as the beginning of my target range...and could look at any up through the '64 series. My thought is to stay with the more basic engine...6xx/2xxx w/live pto where possible. I guess the 8xx/4xxx are not all that much larger/heavier so may be OK also.

Ford built many so there appears to be alot on the market...I will target restored or at least heavily re-furbished as I am not a mechanic. Also, prefer to find one within reasonable driving distance.

Does the MTF have an "inspector" locator area for more distant tractors...what about southern Michigan?

Thanks Again Steve...with your help I will likely know more than the owner about any tractor that I call on :)

Tom R in Two Harbors, MN

BTW...last year I "missed" out on a very nice 8N just a couple of miles from my home...fully re-furbished (nearly restored)...professional engine and drivetrain work...nice re-paint Sold $3,500...I was not quite "ready" to buy.
 

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Steve is a good feller for posting all that info for you. I consider any of the models NAA though the early thousand series (64's) to be my favorites, a good basic tractor you can work all day and easy to work on if the need arises.
 

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Steve is a good feller for posting all that info for you. I consider any of the models NAA though the early thousand series (64's) to be my favorites, a good basic tractor you can work all day and easy to work on if the need arises.
John...Steve sure is a "good feller"!

My conclusion, after soaking up all of Steve's info, is as you say...NAA through early 1000's series '64 would be great.

Now I see New Holland is producing a "new" retro 8N...only problem it is near $30K. I will seek a very nice Ford in the series as above...should be able to locate for under $5K...and it will do just about anything a $30K NH 8N will do :) Thanks...Tom R
 

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does any one have a picture or drawing of a Ford 640 engine oil drain plug, and / or the oil pickup for the pump, I suspect part of mine may be missing, misaligned, it takes 6 - 7 quarts of oil to get oil pressure
 

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One thing to note, they did not have "Live PTO" available on the NAA and earlier models. You have to go with a hundred or '01 series with a 5 speed transmission or newer to get live PTO. The '01 series models with the S-O-S transmission had independent PTO as well, which is better than live PTO because you don't have to hold the clutch halfway out.
 
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