[ITSSLOW]

This is really dumb but I want to make sure I'm not going crazy. What is the shift pattern on a 3cyl diesel/6spd Ford 2000? The right lever when forward is low and backwards it high. The left lever is in an L pattern. If you pull it back it is reverse but then it gets weird. If I put in the center of the 3 forward speeds it just creeps along but it goes faster to the left and right. Is 1st in the center or is something FUBAR'd?

 

[Russelln]

Center has always been Neutral on everything I owned. I would say FUBARed. Possibly a bent shift fork.

 

[sixbales]

I agree with Russelln. Your shift pattern should be like the letter "H" with the center crossbar being neutral. Something like this:

1 2
H
3 R

 

[ITSSLOW]

It seems like its one of these....

213
R

OR

312
R

 

[sixbales]

There is a shift pattern decal for a Ford 2000 on ebay. Search FORD 2000 6 SPEED SHIFT PATTERN DECAL.

 

[sixbales]

Ebay also has a Ford 2000 shift pattern decal for an 8 speed transmission. Is it possible you have an 8 speed transmission with one gear not functional??

 

[souNdguy]

post the model id code from the trans bellhousing, aft of the starter.

soundguy

 

[ITSSLOW]

Ebay also has a Ford 2000 shift pattern decal for an 8 speed transmission. Is it possible you have an 8 speed transmission with one gear not functional??

No idea if its an 8. My only forward speeds are all forward with the shifter and there are 3 of them. Could be messed up but its been messed up since I started running the tractor.

post the model id code from the trans bellhousing, aft of the starter.

soundguy

I'll have to post that up tomorrow. I won't be able to make it over to the barn until tomorrow morning when I go to fix the muffler and grease the machine up. I'll also figure out exactly what way 2/3 seem to be.

 

[ITSSLOW]

Thanks for posting up about ebay! I just went and looked for those decals. Did find a bit out just looking at those. First off, you can tell I'm a newb with the older tractors because I thought 1/2/3 were all in low with either trans. I guess I have an 8 speed looking at those shift patterns though. I have to have a messed up shift fork or something because I get 3 forward speeds all forward and reverse is just below 1st/5th. Its not down in the center, its down all the way to the left. I know this is really confusing in writing but I'll take a video of it tomorrow and post. The second thing I learned was that my PTO speed is at 1800rpm. I've been cutting at ~1900rpm because it wasn't marked anywhere for 540.

*Edit* There was never a ******* 6spd in these tractors for a year or by some outside company was there? I just ask because it seems to shift just fine. Don't have to force anything and its not sloppy either.

 

[souNdguy]

If you have 3 gears across the top row.. i'd say you have to have an 8spd... i don't think your pto rpm is a big issue.. I cut between 1600 and 1900 rpm on my 5000 depending on the conditions.

soundguy

 

[ITSSLOW]

If you have 3 gears across the top row.. i'd say you have to have an 8spd... i don't think your pto rpm is a big issue.. I cut between 1600 and 1900 rpm on my 5000 depending on the conditions.

soundguy

I don't think me cutting is an issue either. Was just curious on what 540 was on the 2000. Its about 1900rpm on my 1220 so thats where I was running it on the 2000. I'd assume I have an 8spd too if I have 3 across the top. Like I said, I'll take a video and post up showing the shift pattern.

 

[souNdguy]

no biggie.. you were cutting a hair fast.. ie.. 1900 vs 1800..

soundguy

 

[ITSSLOW]

Ok, I went to the barn to see about this whole situation today. I'm more confused than ever. The middle gear is definantly the slowest. The video was taken at idle but I went through all the gears in high and low. Speed wise, it still seems like its 213 BUT in the video you will see my new discovery. I played around a bit, changed the trans fluid, and played around a bit more. Its really seeming like 213 up top and RR down low. Just watch.....

pic


These are the markings I found in the general area you told me to look.

Just behind the starter

On the right side of the shifter

Under the seat (left side)

 

[Russelln]

You have a Messed up 8 Speed Tranny. Your going to have to get a service manual for that thing and you might see the problem if you pull that top cover.
I'm thinking Shift fork or something along those lines.

 

[ITSSLOW]

I think at this point the job is above my head. I'm a car guy and love tinkering with tractors but its a new hobby. As dumb as it sounds I'm lost for the most part on the easy stuff. I can completely wipe out my computer on my car and reprogram it manually, but a 38 year old tractor dumbfounds me! :ROF


Maybe I can get someone on the board from the area to come help me.

 

[souNdguy]

AHH.. new piece of info!.. FFF and back is RR, and then you have a 2-spd range selector.

makes sense now...

6/4 manual reversing tranny!

Last letter in the model ID will be a 'K' for the 6/4 manual reverser.

soundguy

 

[souNdguy]

1k13b is a date code.. means

oct, 13 1971, B (day) shift

sn of c316269 agrees with late 71.. here are the start #'s for 71 and 72:

1971 C292100
1972 C327200


mystery solved.

soundguy

 

[sixbales]

Outstanding piece of work! So this is a 6 speed forward and a 4 speed reverse transmission?? Must be designed for a tractor that does a lot of reversing??

Reminds me of the transmission designed for a French tank - one speed forward and 10 reverse!! Designed for a purpose!!

 

[ITSSLOW]

You're a god among men! You guys thought I was crazy but I knew I wasn't. Only took a video to show you! Is this a rare trans?

 

[Russelln]

I never seen a transmission like that or even heard of one. I just buy tractors because I need them and sometimes work with them and repair when needed.

Family and employees mainly run my equipment on my farms, but I myself do all my strip sprays on a Ford 8N.