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Hello Everyone,
I have a Ford 1300 that i'm having problems with! Utilized the following steps.

1) charged battery
2) engaged Glow Plug
3) started engine

4) engine ran maybe 1-2 minutes, and started lousing power, and died. changed throttle position while it was still running to see if problem went away, it did not!

Figured if i slowed it down, if it was starving for fuel it would smooth out and run, didn't work :-(

5) it has a new Diesel filter in it, and fuel flows out of pet kock on pump, so i know its getting fuel.

Any ideas why it would die on me? once it dies, it is even harder to get it to start/run again at all.

6) It has new Glow plugs in it. thought this might of been the problem of hard starts.

7) What is the basic theory of engine operation? once the engine is running.
what keeps it running, are the glow plugs still keeping the fire going?
or is it just the injector pump, and injectors firing that keeps it going?

I was hoping the manual i download from the group earlier would have a troubleshooting section, but didn't find one in it :-(

Please help if you can :) thanks..., Paul
 

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I don't think the battery or glow plugs have anything to do with your problem. I have a 1300 and it will run with the key turned off. Once the engine is running there is no need for battery power or glow plugs to keep it running. I'd check the fuel system thoroughly.
It sounds like dirt or water in the fuel system. It sounds like the engine is starving for fuel.

We had a Ford NAA once that did something very similar. It would run just fine for about 5 minutes then sputter and die. We played around with the thing off and on for a couple months. We finally found a piece of plastic (Saran Wrap) in the gas tank. It floated to the top with the engine off but as soon as you started the tractor it would get sucked down againts the fuel pick-up.
 

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Hi,
Thanks for the information, I will check the fuel system out. I wonder if it could be the fuel itself. I was using Highway fuel grade, then tried some farm/off road RED grade, bought at a regular gas station near work. Then i have a friend that works on a OIL rig, and he got me some of there Red diesel. i put that in, i used it once or twice after adding that to the tank, and a few weeks maybe a month later the No Run problem started.
Anyway, after it died on me the first time i added regular Highway grade stuff to the tank, and didn't help.
Maybe that oil field stuff is whats causing my problem. i will try flushing out the tank, system, apply some injector cleaner, refuel with Highway grade diesel and see what happens.

Hope its not the Pump, can't afford a rebuild at this time, or injectors either for that matter :)

best regards... Paul
 

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When you changed the fuel filter, did you make note of the number of, and location of all of the o-rings and put them back in the same places? Some fuel filters are used in multiple tractor models, so they come with all possible o-rings for all possible installation configurations, and not all tractors should use all of them. I have heard of this with a number of different Ford models, and you might have an extra o-ring in there that shouldn't be there that might be blocking the fuel flow.
 

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Hi,
The filter i got from NAPA, did not come with any 0-rings, except for the one in the middle that goes on outlet bowl stim, only other gasket was an o-ring on the main plastic bowl, between it and main housing.
 

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Re: Ford 1300 when started wont stay running

The engine stumbling and died while driving down the drive, i got it running, and died again about 5 minutes later using the finish mower on back.
That's when i replaced the fuel filter, figuring that was the problem. It didn't help as you can see from previous postings above.

How do i check the injector pump for function? without messing something up?
just remove the line/lines between it and injectors? and crank her over and see what happens? How should discharge look? roughly :) as in what sort of discharge should i expect to see a consistent drop/drip, i'm sure it wont just spray out of the pump even at full throttle :) just wondering how to maybe tell if pump is bad.

Thanks.. Paul
 

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Have you read and re-read your manual concerning proper priming? I don't believe I've heard anyone mention Priming the fuel system properly...Or checking the injector & fuel lines for cracks that may be allowing air to re-enter the fuel system?
 

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Hi,
Just a followup on my Ford 1300 that wouldn't run/stay running. Well, It runs fine now.

None of the lights on my tractor work. and can just barely see the glow plug indicator do its thing.

Anyway, It turns out that if the OIL level is too low, it will not run! I should of kept a better eye on oil level, luckily nothing was damaged.
 

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Oil pressure cutoff switch to control the fuel flow. Nice safety feature, but you have to know your machine has it or you can get bit.
 

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I have trouble seeing my glow plug indicator also unless it is dark outside. I think that is pretty common with these tractors. I always put a finger over the indicator hole. When my finger gets hot, I start the tractor.
 

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i have just got a 1300 ford tractor 2 cy diesel one injector is leaking will it be hard to change? can i do it myself?
 
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