I have a '96 Murray Ultra 22" walk behind self propeled with Kawi. power. '90 Toro Wheelhorse 416-8 with the Kohler splash single, and a 48" deck at my Mom's, my brother has a 5hp, Suzuki powered '89 Toro walk-behind, self-prop. And I bought a 2000 Ariens ST1028 for snow removal for $50!