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I have an old Stihl trimmer I have had for over 10 years. It starts and runs without any problems. I also have a Stihl chain saw so I mix gas using Stihl's oil mix for around the year use. I have worn out a trimmer head and replaced it. I live in a small town and there is a dealer a couple of blocks away at our local hardware store. I have the smallest trimmer and the shaft does seem short so my back hurts after a while. But I like the system because it always works without any problems.
 

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Reading more about the 4mix vs 2 stroke/cycle. What brands still offer large 2 strokes/cycles. Or is that a thing of the past now. Is 26cc the largest 2 cycle trimmer available today?


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The echo has two 30.5cc trimmers, and I believe that Stihl's FS 240 R has a 37.7cc 2 stroke engine. Husqvarna has a 28cc trimmer.
 

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Echo. Have a commercial grade for 15 years. Can't kill it. Use Power Blend with ethanol-free fuel and it will love you. Great machine, and would buy again. BTW, my neighbor has a Stihl, and it looks like he has to yank on it a lot to get it to start.
 

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Yeah, I've got a Stihl FS110R, and when I bought it, it would reliably need 10 pulls to start when it was cold. Which is super annoying, as, when doing lawns, it gets cold between every job... Took it to the dealer to fix, he replicated the problem, then just shrugged his shoulders "They can be hard to start".

I fixed the problem by buying a knock-off carb from China. Put it on, starts with just a couple pulls now.

Ar-Jays in Edmonton, AB. Don't buy stuff there, unless you don't care about after-sales service.
 

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Funny thing I thought of as I read the last few posts. Part of the reason I went to the Stihl was because I had bought a used edger and that was the only thing in my power equipment line up that wasn't giving me trouble with the horrible gas in Mass. Every piece I had was nothing but 1-2 pull reliable for 15 years and when I moved over state lines that changed with 1-2 tanks of fuel in each piece. The only thing that ran and would fire right up was that old used Stihl edger.

I did research the Echo vs Stihl individual blower/trimmers and found that the specs on the Stihl were closer to what I wanted. Somehow walked out of the door with the Kombi 130R and have built up some good forearm muscle. For anyone buying the 131R these days, I'd recommend convincing the dealer to toss in the two shoulder harness. It can be a big help if you are putting in a good amount of time all at once.
 

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I have 3, an Echo, a Stihl and battery powered Black and Decker. For quick trimming around the front yard I'll grab the B&D every time. No gas to mix, never, string never, never jambs, automatic line advance (never once had a problem), head rotates for trimming or edging along the driveway.
As for the Stihl, this **** thing jambed on the first use. Took out the string, rewound, used it for 5-10 minutes and it jambed again. Bump the head on th ed ground, nothing, string melted together. Bought the newest head where you cut a 12 ft lengrh of line, run it halfway through the head and just wind. Jammed in minutes. Switched to the twisted line, and that helped considerably. Still will nit advance half the time. Carburetor fine jets clob on Ethanol gas (same gas i use in Echo). Well bu il lt other that that.
Echo works better but also has head problems, just not as bad as Stihl. Carb does clog as well, but not as easy.
As i said, for fast work, small areas (based on battery life) battery powered B&D works best. Absolutely no problems other that maintaining a charge.

With any gas-powered trimmer, follow these rules for best operation.

1. Use NON-Ethanol gas. Ethanol gas will seperate out and the alcohol WILL burn the valves and possibly melt a hole in the top of the piston. Secondly, Ethanol draws moisture out of the air to itself. This forms gunk that WILL clog the tiny jets on a modern gas carburetor.

2. If you cannot find Ethanol free gas, before you pump gas into the gas can at the service station, add a preservative to prevent seperation. I use both Sea Foam and Sta-Bil.

3. Use a co-extruded type of line to prevent (or at least lesson) line tangles due to it melting itself together.
 

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You could also use the expensive ethanol free pre mixed stuff. Stihls is called motomix
 

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Forgot to add while i was composing my post. Whenever you refill with Ethanol gas, use mid grade or the higher. The added anti-knock can prevent a destroyed engine should the alcohol seperate out.
 

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I have an Echo srm 2400 that is almost 20 yrs old.
It started to run bad 4 yrs ago. A spark plugs, air filter and fuel filter fixed it like new.
I have stihl chainsaws that I love. But the Echo trimmer is real good.
PS. The Echo pro saws are a real good value as well.
 

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I have an Echo, straight shaft/Solid shaft SRM-261T
The T is a geared down /lower RPM, high torque model. Get the current SRM-280T.

Had mine for over 18 years now, home use, still going strong. It just plows through the roughest 3 foot tall ditch grass you can imagine without bogging. Its scary brutal with a metal brush blade. One swing and "ping" ...1"+ sapplings are toast. One carb rebuild with new gaskets is all I have done to it.

I purchased at the advice of a friend that was a mechanic at a mower shop. He knew what rocked.
 

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Another vote for Echo. I bought a Stihl Kombi KM56RC early last season and it's already giving me problems, and I'm very picky about the fuel mix I use. I'm glad I didn't get rid of my 20 year old Husqvarna when I bought the Stihl because I'd be without. I suppose it's still under warranty, I just hate the hassle of taking it in and potentially having to answer a bunch of questions about what and how. I've almost ruled out a carb issue, it's as clean as a whistle. I should of checked spark first, but I just didn't think a 10 hour run-time machine would have spark issues. Oh well, I'll check the spark tomorrow and go from there. It's pretty sad that I mow with an old Lawnboy that is over 50 years old with no problems, but this dang weed whacker that is less than 2 years old is giving me problems, furthermore I'm sure if I take it in to the shop for warranty work they are going to try and tell me I'm doing something wrong. If it is the ignition module they will still want to charge me 75 bucks for labor. Okay I'm done venting for now, I'll now go back to the Walk behind section. LOL
 

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Another vote for Echo. I bought a Stihl Kombi KM56RC early last season and it's already giving me problems, and I'm very picky about the fuel mix I use. I'm glad I didn't get rid of my 20 year old Husqvarna when I bought the Stihl because I'd be without. I suppose it's still under warranty, I just hate the hassle of taking it in and potentially having to answer a bunch of questions about what and how. I've almost ruled out a carb issue, it's as clean as a whistle. I should of checked spark first, but I just didn't think a 10 hour run-time machine would have spark issues. Oh well, I'll check the spark tomorrow and go from there. It's pretty sad that I mow with an old Lawnboy that is over 50 years old with no problems, but this dang weed whacker that is less than 2 years old is giving me problems, furthermore I'm sure if I take it in to the shop for warranty work they are going to try and tell me I'm doing something wrong. If it is the ignition module they will still want to charge me 75 bucks for labor. Okay I'm done venting for now, I'll now go back to the Walk behind section. LOL
You didn't specify if you use gas with Ethanol in it. I'm betting you do. Even if the carb looks spotless, the jets in a modern carb (due to new federal regulations) are extremely tiny and clog easily. (More so with Ethanol gas). Before to take it to the dealer and pay out $$$ try putting some Sea Foam in the gas, then pump the bulb to circulate the gas. Leave it sit for a few days if possible and see if the Sea Foam will clear the jet. I've had good luck with this stuff with one exception. Had to take a lawn tractor in due to clogged jets. He use ultrasonic cleaner and still could not get clear. Had to rod out every little opening and jet with wire to get open. But try Sea Foam first.
 

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Alright back in business. The spark check revealed no spark going through the plug, but good spark bypassing the plug. Went to Lowe’s and picked up a new plug and it started first pull. It ran good, got the back lot done. I had forgot how much power this little Stihl has. Alright I guess I owe an apology to Stihl, my beef is now the spark plug maker (NGK). One season and done? I should of known if I’m not getting even a bump with a squirt of primed fuel mix, then a dirty carb can be ruled out. On the bright side, I can now pull and clean these carbs fairly quickly. I’m not a fan of all the plastic covers though. Thanks guys!


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I have a Stihl FS44 going on twenty years I would guess, ran great until Uncle Sam decided ethanol was the fuel of choice. It ran like crap and I seldom used it, one day I'm at the Stihl dealer and see Stihl Motomix, buy it a start using it, the FS44 comes back to life, runs like new. I have not done a thing to this trimmer, head works as designed, never jambs up. I started using grease for the head last year as I had never seen any or never looked for it, runs great. I only use premix, JP Fuel, Trufuel, etc. It keeps these two strokes running like they were intended.

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My point was That I beg to differ with your Opinion that "it's near Impossible to contour a ditch with bike handles wearing a harness and have it look manicured"
The Harness Has Not limited My Movement what so ever. In Fact I would say it has Made trimming easier and Has allowed to to make it Look 10 times better than it did without the Harness and a standard trimmer configuration. Only downside of the Harness is trying to mount it to the Harness the 1st time you use it for the day . But Most of the time I just use the shoulder strap :thThumbsU
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Sarge--I have (almost) the identical padded harness (no name brand)-as yours that affix's the same way to the trimmer. No complaints, either and it saves my back...Used w/ my Echo SRM225--and I'm happy..

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