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Hmm looks like Toro type wheels and engine?
 

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every few years this comes up. these were a HUGE market flop. major reliability problems -unusual for a *** made engine. i still have a dead one in my garage at the bottom of my dead engine pile. these lasted even a shorter time than didi the ill fated briggs 2 cycle. the body is a jacobson and is a decent desighn
 

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I looked at it closely and wasn`t sure if the mower deck wasn`t made out of the same color plastic as there hand held blowers, has to pretty old, looks like the mower deck to the bagger is one big piece, the motor does look like a 2 stroke on a Toro mower. Not sure if that orange handle on the handle is a shift level or a blade break control. Thank for the info. it does look good for it`s age most likely you could never find parts for it. To bad it didn`t pan out for Echo they make a good product.
 

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I'd have to say the reason MOST folks like Echo is because they can readily find parts over other "commercial" grade units. At least thats how it is around this part of the country.
 

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Yep, we have an awesome Echo dealer close to me and I've been thinking of getting a nice weedwhacker from there. They are also a Lawn-boy dealer so I've bought many parts from them. I'd say the right dealer makes all the difference.
 

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That's simply YOUR opinion Dan and not fact. I have yet to see ANY commercial user, use anything but Echo/Stihl products both here and in certain parts of the state where you do business. I do occasionally see a few Shindiawa trimmers, but not much of anything else. We understand you've had some trouble with reliability and dealers, but I'd say the vast majority of residential/commercial users are satisfied with Echo products. I don't push Echo brand on others nor do I slander the other brands, but I DO recommend brands that I know are easy to start, use and maintain, which I've found to be Echo, for the $$. You have to admit, each brand has their own quirks and issues that may not be suitable for all users or applications.
 

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I've had MANY Echo products and they have been GREAT(no mowers!)As long as you maintain them,they are long lasting and reliable.
 

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actually i have had more trouble with sthil products and would buy an echo over a sthil -if some one put a gun to my head. most of it all boils down to the use of zama carbs vs walbro
 

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THe guys near me all use Echo string trimmers(weedwackers) and they use echo hedge trimmers. A good amount of the guys use redmax blowers but there are some stihls and echos.
 

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whats really interesting about this is no company line seems to satisify everyone. i seldom see one brand only on someones trailer. i choose the best tool for my tastes regaurdless of brand.
 

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This may be a little off topic for the main purpose of this thread, but I have seen many landscapers and commercial lawncutters with the new Lawn-Boy's (Lawn-Girl's as some call them) on their trailers in my area. Just out of curiousity with no one giving me rude answers, why? I have nothing against the new Lawn-Boy's, I would take a Lawn-Girl over a Lawn-Boy Dura Force anyday.
 

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There is a landscaper near me that has a few. I asked him and his answer was when they break i will just throw them away. I dont feel bad about throwing it away like i would a 2 cycle. He said parts are expensive for the mowers

The duraforce just has to be worked on to get the problems out. It will be a fine runner once thats done
 

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There is a landscaper near me that has a few. I asked him and his answer was when they break i will just throw them away. I dont feel bad about throwing it away like i would a 2 cycle. He said parts are expensive for the mowers

The duraforce just has to be worked on to get the problems out. It will be a fine runner once thats done
I see, I am supposed to be getting a free "Lawn-Girl" soon, can't wait. I just don't like Dura Force's, not true Lawn-Boy 2-cycles IMHO:fing20: . I just can't stand working on them. I spent more time working on mine than I did mowing with them. F engines are way more reliable.:hide:
 

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The landscaper that did our lawn uses a newer Lawn-Boy for the same reason. Its sad really that the Lawn-Boy has been brought down to this level. I guess I better hope my 8480 lasts forever. Which I am sure it will since it wasnt really used all that much. And it has the good F engine. The bottom seal is perfectly dry and the adapter comes right off to clean the muffler.
 
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