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This painful experience is finally far enough in the past that I can type about it without muscle and joint pain. Warning some graphic images of the dark side of residential plumbing

Late May, I noticed my drainfield was running very slowly. I usually have my tank pumped, and the field "jetted" every couple years. So, I had the septic pumpers come in. They pumped the tank, but could not force their jet more than about 12' down the drainfield pipe . Probably not technically even to the distribution box in that distance.

So I started Digging just 12' from the vent pipe for the drainfield:



This septic system is now about 45 years old, plenty of time to resolve any infant mortality. I could tell by probing from the vent pipe that the top of the lateral was about 40" down.



I actually found it at 42", and dug down 48" to clear below the pipe. I found no visible evidence of any problems from examination of the exterior of this 45 year old iron drain pipe.



I decided that before I open the pipe, I'd have on hand what I needed to close it up again. So, I stopped at Lowe's and picked up a 12' section of sewer pipe, and a pair of these generic flexible couplers to mate between the heavier wall of the iron pipe and the thiner wall of PVC. Also picked up a new diamond edge sawzall blade for the iron pipe.



I sawed it open with a sawzall (what did people do before all these handy tools). And found I had not problem snaking from this point out into the d-box and beyond, but I couldn't force the snake back toward the tank.



Had to extend my trench a little further back toward the tank, and found the culprit. Evidently the drain pipe was broken, probably on installation, and just stuck back together and held in place with a large mortar bandage.



I guess over time there was some settling, mortar cracked, pipe opened a little, and some of the mortar got into the pipe. Backed off a little farther, and made another cut, as square as I could hold it.



Squared up both ends, prepare the flexible collars, set in place,



Tighten down the clamps, ran a hose down the vent pipe and run water for half an hour. No leaks, looks good.



Eight foot patch in place, tested, verified, ready for back fill. I got a little back fill done, and ran out of motivation. The weather was a sweltering 90
I lost a couple pounds of water weight. So I tamped the fill good under the pipe, filled over top and tamped carefully to stablize the pipe, then pulled a tarp over it to get a fresh, hopefully cooler start next morning.



And, of course, after a completely dry May, with no measureable rainfall, at about midnight, o-dark-thirty June 1, it stormed and dumped a major make-up rainfall. Lucky for me, my tarp sagged into the hole, but did not leak. Unlucky for me, it was too heavy for me to lift. I started a siphon to drain enough out so I could lift it, and Scout and I took a morning hike.

I decided to not put any of the rocks that took two hands to lift back into the hole, so they went in the 15S, and I finished up the back fill that next morning.



With a full load of rocks removed from my back fill, I needed a supply of soil. And, based on my symbiotic relationship with nature, I backed the 15S into a wooded area where a groundhog had excavated plenty. I screened a load of fresh soil for dressing the top.



Spread it under the watchful eye of my crack security director:



Seeded, then sprinkled a thin coating of the oak noodles as mulch, and turned on the sprinkler.



Before you know it, it was peeking green again:



It is now blended so well, you wouldn't like know there had been any disturbance. A couple times during the hot days in the hole, I was prepared to give up. I even called a couple excavating contractors that advertise septic system install/repair. I guess fortunately for me, not one of them ever even called back. I assume they are all too busy, or too rich already, or maybe they just aren't interested in a single residential septic repair job. Either way. I spent $12 on the pipe, and $6.59 each for the two generic brand couplings (I always called these Fernco's but Lowe's only had generics), and about $12,750 in sweat equity to complete this repair. I already had a couple pounds of grass seed left over from an earlier overseeding exercise.

I now see the wisdom of owning, or at least being very friendly with a neighbor who owns a back-hoe.
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That is what I call a silent project.... a project that has to be done.... yet in the end there is no evidence...(in this case just plumbing that works :ROF). Not very rewarding appearance wise. Hopefully it is good to go another 45 years!!

Nice work and yes knowing someone with some larger equipment is very handy. :D
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good work ... I still want to know how you talked the invisible man ( pic 11) to give you a hand ...
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Quite a job Jere! Hopefully, you will never have to do it again. :fing32:
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good work ... I still want to know how you talked the invisible man ( pic 11) to give you a hand ...
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Quite a job Jere! Hopefully, you will never have to do it again. :fing32:
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I was told years ago that the primary reason for doing your own plumbing was vocabulary enhancement.
No doubt a crappy job,no pun intended..but much as I hate digging,I'd rather dig up a pipe,than have to get up on a ladder,or a roof..(my house needs a roof bad!)..
I prefer to stay "grounded"..don't care for heights, or falling..

My shop teacher used to say there were 3 basic rules of plumbing..

1. Crap always flows downhill..

2. Payday is friday..

3. Never bite your fingernails!..:eck16:...
:D
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Oh ya, been there! My problem turned out to be a tree that made itself a nice football sized mass in the old iron pipe. Like you, I had to cut it out and replace about 6 feet of drain line. I used the same rubber couplers as you did. Imagine your hole was 3 feet deeper and when you made that last cut to pull out the bad pipe, and 30 some feet of "stopped up goo" came rushing out to meet you! Good thing the hole I had to dig was deeper than the depth needed to just make the repair, haha. Crappy jobs indeed. But not having to pay for the work makes it worth the effort. Good job man!
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you are a mans man! i would have done it myself but i would have rented a mini excavator after about the third shove full. in fact thats what i did when i had to do almost the same thing two years ago. said i was going to dig it by hand got maybe a foot down and hopped in the truck to head to the rental place!
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Pretty amazing fix Jere...nice job.
Nice job again--Jere....and as always--like you said--I needed a small back hoe a few weeks ago--my friends I knew that had one were using thier's were hard on jobs--so we rented one...

.....Got the job done in less than two hours--I'm not 21 anymore--and my back /knees still thank me.....

glenn
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Not 45 years later, only about 6, and not the same problem, but one that involved a couple yards of soil none the less. And, of course, it crops up when the weather is at it's worst for manual labor.

This time it was observed via mirror and flashlight that the baffle that should be in the tank and ensuring only the liquids transit to the drain field was missing by the last pumper guys. They were also kind enough to note that should I want to sell the house, and to provide for a better clean-out/pump I really need a riser from tank top to ground level.

I peeled up the sod, and started digging, this time to expose the tank top and more specifically the cap:

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Fortunately, the cap is only about 30" down, and I carry enough weight to make dehydration unlikely.

Found the edge of the cap, found a lift ring, and found it was mortared in place. I chipped the mortar, and waited for the septic repair folks to help lift the cap off. Then discovered it was not a round cap, nor a square cap, but rather a kind of half-moon right on the edge of the tank top.

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They arrived, we pulled the cap, which was actually just a small section of the tank top. They declared themselves under-prepared for the riser job, but pumped my tank probably cleaner than it has been in 50 years.

This made it easy to construct and install a new baffle. And for that matter, observe the old broken off baffle there in the bottom of the tank. But, they didn't think there was any poly riser that would properly mate up to this hole. Their proposal, bring back an excavator, dig up the entire top of the tank, pull the entire lid, install a new lid, with a proper port for a riser and proceed to inspect the tank and field and pipes, and no doubt find all manner of other expensive things to replace/repair. So, executive decision made, by me, to set the existing half-moon back on the hole, back fill, plant grass seed, and let this whole riser issue be for some future consideration. I have no plans to sell the house or move.

I found pushing dirt back into a hole is much easier than digging it out. I placed heavy plastic over the joint, backfilled, and had grass seed in by mid afternoon. I spread some potting soil I had over the seed, pulled a lawn chair out to the shade, and started watering my new, under cover baffle and clean tank:

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Not 45 years later, only about 6, and not the same problem, but one that involved a couple yards of soil none the less. And, of course, it crops up when the weather is at it's worst for manual labor.

This time it was observed via mirror and flashlight that the baffle that should be in the tank and ensuring only the liquids transit to the drain field was missing by the last pumper guys. They were also kind enough to note that should I want to sell the house, and to provide for a better clean-out/pump I really need a riser from tank top to ground level.

I peeled up the sod, and started digging, this time to expose the tank top and more specifically the cap:

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Fortunately, the cap is only about 30" down, and I carry enough weight to make dehydration unlikely.

Found the edge of the cap, found a lift ring, and found it was mortared in place. I chipped the mortar, and waited for the septic repair folks to help lift the cap off. Then discovered it was not a round cap, nor a square cap, but rather a kind of half-moon right on the edge of the tank top.

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They arrived, we pulled the cap, which was actually just a small section of the tank top. They declared themselves under-prepared for the riser job, but pumped my tank probably cleaner than it has been in 50 years.

This made it easy to construct and install a new baffle. And for that matter, observe the old broken off baffle there in the bottom of the tank. But, they didn't think there was any poly riser that would properly mate up to this hole. Their proposal, bring back an excavator, dig up the entire top of the tank, pull the entire lid, install a new lid, with a proper port for a riser and proceed to inspect the tank and field and pipes, and no doubt find all manner of other expensive things to replace/repair. So, executive decision made, by me, to set the existing half-moon back on the hole, back fill, plant grass seed, and let this whole riser issue be for some future consideration. I have no plans to sell the house or move.

I found pushing dirt back into a hole is much easier than digging it out. I placed heavy plastic over the joint, backfilled, and had grass seed in by mid afternoon. I spread some potting soil I had over the seed, pulled a lawn chair out to the shade, and started watering my new, under cover baffle and clean tank:

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Signed:
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Proud Member of the Shiny Shovel brigade
Not sure I'd set up my easy chair over the septic tank but each to their own! Also I never saw the original portion of this so a few "likes" went out for some old posts on this.
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Jere, before long are you going to go into outdoor plumbing business?
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Skimming but I thought I saw a bit about a riser pipe in a lid.

My concrete tank has the same type of lid. Tank is oblong concrete and there are two lids, one over each half/chamber of the tank. Local septic company pours lids with 8" PVC pipe in place, but they only pour rectangular lids. They say there is no problem using those in place of the half rounds.

I may go with one of theirs, but I'm also considering pouring my own. Plan is to pull one of the lids and use it as a template to make a form. Put the old lid back on and cover the hole temporarily while I pour the new lid and let it cure. Most likely will use re-mesh wire grid to reinforce. Not sure if I'll use 6" or 8" pipe since they only use 4" hose on the pump trucks.
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Jere, before long are you going to go into outdoor plumbing business?
Simple answer - No, I can keep my shovel shiny with steel wool and one or the other of various protectant sprays.
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Skimming but I thought I saw a bit about a riser pipe in a lid.

My concrete tank has the same type of lid. Tank is oblong concrete and there are two lids, one over each half/chamber of the tank. Local septic company pours lids with 8" PVC pipe in place, but they only pour rectangular lids. They say there is no problem using those in place of the half rounds.

I may go with one of theirs, but I'm also considering pouring my own. Plan is to pull one of the lids and use it as a template to make a form. Put the old lid back on and cover the hole temporarily while I pour the new lid and let it cure. Most likely will use re-mesh wire grid to reinforce. Not sure if I'll use 6" or 8" pipe since they only use 4" hose on the pump trucks.
Here in PA, an inspection port must be accessible from above ground for all new build, and when an old tank is transferred as part of a home sale. Kind of a make work, collect inspection fees deal if anyone were to ask me. But, my tank does have an 8" pump pipe, it's the one there on the right in my grass seed picture. It has served as a bi-annual pump port for me for the 35 years I've lived here. And, with luck, will serve for the next 35 years too. That would make me over 100 and not the least bit concerned about my septic system.
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Good that you can still operate the human shovel without hurting yourself. If the doctors had their way they would sell mine.
Did you take dimensions for a new cast concrete cover of that area? Can not believe their idea of replacing the top would have been a good one. Next would have been the whole tank to meet new codes. Can't connect the new tank to old pipe.
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