Deestone VS Hi-Run AG's

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THEPATRIOT

Discussion Starter · Sep 11, 2010

I mounted my Hi-Run 23x10.50's on my Simplicity 7790 Diesel,and i'm VERY happy with the quality and look.I wanted a smaller tire for my B10 so i ordered a set of Deestones in 23x8.50.I've read the 10.50's were very close in size and not worth the extra money.I still need to mount the Deestones,but when i opened the box i was surprised how small they were,unmounted.I do like them though.Here's a few pics.

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ben2go

· #2 · Sep 11, 2010

Good info.I found the Hi-Runs to be smaller compared to my round tread stock turf tires.Oh the size was 20x8x8.

snoyes

· #3 · Sep 11, 2010

I ran into that as well. The Deestones run small compared to just about any other tire...

Firefyter-Emt

· #4 · Sep 11, 2010 (Edited)

Don't let it fool you! Those Deestones do look small before they are mounted and aired up. Here is the 23x8.5 Deestone against an original 1970's Turf tire both mounted and aired up, and one non mounted. I too was shocked and mad about the size when I opened the box, but stunned when they turned out to be a perfect height match to the stock turf's. :fing32:

PS, yes... I do seem to defend these tires a lot, but they seem to of gotten the rep that they are ALWAYS smaller than they should be. Mostly this comes as second hand info and not from someone who has mounted the tires and placed them next to a known tire size. In my case, the 8.5 wide ones are a perfect match in height and width compared to a good compared tire (one of the old school turf's)

Please update a photo once you have the Deestone mounted and placed next to the Hi-runs. They look like they may still be smaller in diameter (width is to be expected... it's a narrower tire!) I look forward to seeing how they compare. I really like the looks of the Hi-run's tread pattern!

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THEPATRIOT

Discussion Starter · #5 · Sep 11, 2010

Lee i know!After i saw your tractor in person,i wanted some.On the right tractor they look great.I just wanted to show them compared to the Hi Run's.What tractor did your buddy end up fixing?

Firefyter-Emt

· #6 · Sep 11, 2010

No problem, I just think that a lot of people have been swayed against buying them on bad input, where they are really great tires for the money. Plus, I think they have a very nice looking tread pattern!

On the Massey, I did get him to use the 10. We tried a bit to get the 10 running, but with the good coil pack, we could not get it to fire. We tired either carb and still no fire. (IMHO, I think (and hope) that it may be the stator coil that is not charging the coil. I may send them both out as the motor would be a great swap for my son's MF-8

We put his 12hp motor onto the MF-10. Then we swapped his wheel weights, his steering wheel and the seat. We also installed the headlight kit from his 12 onto the 10. I am now working on getting his rough mower deck onto the 10. There are some other parts that were swapped over too, pretty much all the best parts onto one tractor. I plan to use the wheels from his old Massey on my John Deere, and the I may be able to use the factory electric lift switch from my Massey when I add the 12v actuator. Plus, I took the stock seat pan from the 10 and plan to send it out to have the pads redone.

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ranchkingron

· #7 · Sep 11, 2010

Firefyter-Emt said:
No problem, I just think that a lot of people have been swayed against buying them on bad input, where they are really great tires for the money. Plus, I think they have a very nice looking tread pattern!

On the Massey, I did get him to use the 10. We tried a bit to get the 10 running, but with the good coil pack, we could not get it to fire. We tired either carb and still no fire. (IMHO, I think (and hope) that it may be the stator coil that is not charging the coil. I may send them both out as the motor would be a great swap for my son's MF-8

We put his 12hp motor onto the MF-10. Then we swapped his wheel weights, his steering wheel and the seat. We also installed the headlight kit from his 12 onto the 10. I am now working on getting his rough mower deck onto the 10. There are some other parts that were swapped over too, pretty much all the best parts onto one tractor. I plan to use the wheels from his old Massey on my John Deere, and the I may be able to use the factory electric lift switch from my Massey when I add the 12v actuator. Plus, I took the stock seat pan from the 10 and plan to send it out to have the pads redone.

99% of all tires have a different mounted height compared to unmounted thats why you need to check the sizes carefully or you may have clearance issues.

The Toolman

· #8 · Sep 11, 2010

23x8.50x12 duros on the back of my c-101. I'm happy

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snoyes

· #9 · Sep 11, 2010

Well I got a set, put them next to my original tires and sent them back... Seeing them mounted is very interesting... Mine we 23x10.50's, I wonder if that made a difference? I called the place where I bought them from and they stated that they knew the Deestone's ran small, and took them back without any problems.

Seems when inflated the centers bow out to make them stand up....

THEPATRIOT

Discussion Starter · #10 · Sep 11, 2010

snoyes said:
Well I got a set, put them next to my original tires and sent them back... Seeing them mounted is very interesting... Mine we 23x10.50's, I wonder if that made a difference? I called the place where I bought them from and they stated that they knew the Deestone's ran small, and took them back without any problems.

Seems when inflated the centers bow out to make them stand up....

They are deff. an old skool tire.I've been told the Deestone,Duro and Nanco are all the same from a guy who sells alot of them.(seemed to know his stuff).He said they were all from the vintage GoodYear mold,they just changed the sides for different brands.

snoyes

· #11 · Sep 11, 2010

That seems to make sense to me... Kinda like an old school tire. I've had Duros before, I think prior to the mold change and they were much bigger, though the lugs were definately skinner than other Ags....

The Toolman

· #12 · Sep 11, 2010

The fella at morrow tire here told me that the duro an deestone 8.50's were right but the 10.50's run real small compared to the carlisles

snoyes

· #13 · Sep 12, 2010

Maybe that is what it is... I sent the Deestones back and got the Carlisle... Seemed to be a bigger tire in the 23x10.50 size and exactly what I was told as well...

TinnerN

· #14 · Sep 12, 2010

I have the 23 10.5 x 12 Deestone 6 ply on my Snapper 1650A and I love them. Out of the box they looked small. Mounted and blown up they are the same height as the Carlisle turf tires that were on my tractor and also the same as my brother's Goodyear lugs. They are however, 5/16 of an inch narrower than my brother's Goodyear lugs and my Carlisle turf tires. If I remember correctly, they have two more lugs than the Goodyear lugs too.

High Cetane

· #15 · Sep 12, 2010

Can you shed some more light on these Hi-Run tires? I've never heard of the brand...where did you get them & how much?, I'm looking for the same size 23,10,5x12.
Thanks for any help- and pics

ranchkingron

· #16 · Sep 12, 2010

High Cetane said:
Can you shed some more light on these Hi-Run tires? I've never heard of the brand...where did you get them & how much?, I'm looking for the same size 23,10,5x12.
Thanks for any help- and pics

I've seen and heard allot of bad things about Hi-Run tires but mostly from the trailering crowd, but I have them on my LT and really like them they have all the things I look for in a tire traction, long life, etc.

Now as far as the trailer tire I don't know but have some suspicions about why they fail, like driving to fast with an overloaded trailer or doing 80 MPH on the highway with a low tire which is fairly commonplace around here.

THEPATRIOT

Discussion Starter · #17 · Sep 12, 2010

High Cetane said:
Can you shed some more light on these Hi-Run tires? I've never heard of the brand...where did you get them & how much?, I'm looking for the same size 23,10,5x12.
Thanks for any help- and pics

TSC sells them for $85-each.Fit/finish and quality are as nice as you will see.They look like Carlisle Super Lugs.I've been told they bought the mold from them but who knows???Also,they are made in New Zealand.I'll deff. buy them again :fing32:.

TN Hillbilly

· #18 · Sep 12, 2010

My deerstones 23-10.50-12 were actualy 1" taller than my Carlisle when mounted also my 16-6.5-8 were also 1" taller than Carlisle

Protrucker

· #19 · Sep 12, 2010

THEPATRIOT said:
TSC sells them for $85-each.Fit/finish and quality are as nice as you will see.They look like Carlisle Super Lugs.I've been told they bought the mold from them but who knows???Also,they are made in New Zealand.I'll deff. buy them again :fing32:.

I looked at the Hi-Run's at TSC & was disappointed to see that they were only 2-ply. Does anyone know if they are also made as a 4-ply tire?

THEPATRIOT

Discussion Starter · #20 · Sep 12, 2010

Protrucker said:
I looked at the Hi-Run's at TSC & was disappointed to see that they were only 2-ply. Does anyone know if they are also made as a 4-ply tire?

I doubt you'll have a problem with them.

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