I paid $500 for my rust bucket 184, with no attachments. Not much to look at, but the 4 banger purrs like a kitten. I use mine solely as a puller, but I agree wholeheartedly with ABC, 2nd is too slow, 3rd too fast. I love seat time on it nonetheless, and it's been very dependable. Around here, clean runners bring $1000, to as high as $1500, for a real nice example.