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Well how crazy am I wanting to try this? Making it attach to a Cat 0 or Cat 1 3point should not be very much trouble. Converting the 540 PTO to run the tiller at the correct RPM and how to mount the PTO shaft is the trouble. I saw one person selling with the PTO shaft mounted Direct to the gear box (ariens, very similar tiller style), no belts.... Should I would I need a belt or a slip clutch? Any thoughts on the RPM's ?
 

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I thought the 140 used a set of pulleys to drive the tiller, I've seen a double sheeve setup on them from the rear PTO shaft off of an electric clutch!
 

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Looked like that shaft setup was too long, but I'm not sure how far in the PTO shaft on the 140 is. Some yellow paint will eliminate that PATIO problem!!! :ROF

TroyMN, what we're trying to tell you is that the tiller if it is original may be worth some money to a collector. John Deere ran a series of GT's in the 70's called "Patio" models which now are very rare.
 

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The attachments were white for the Patios That tiller pictured up above is not a number 33tiller which would have been used on a 140 Here is what a Number 33 tiller looks like.
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Wow Sergeant, that looks like it was sitting on the showroom floor! I thought all the powered rear attachments from the 140 used the double pulley setup. I'm just not as familiar with the Patio series since I've seen so few! I didn't realize that all the attachements were white! You learn something new here everyday!
 

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The top picture of mine is just a Craigslist add that was converted to 3-pt/ PTO, I think it is an Ariens.
I would love to trade this tiller (below) for a 3-point PTO model. 47-54 inches??
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd200/troyrev800/JD140h3tiller.jpg

Can you think of anyone that like that deal??
Again, Thank you everyone for your input so far!
Not trying to wreck a collector piece just get a tiller I can afford. The 3 point is going to be $400 or so, and the PTO is about $800 just for the part. I was trying to get enough money out of my Ariens GT-17 with all the attachments to just pay for the PTO/Tiller/3-pt. If not I am just keeping the whole ariens around just for tilling..
 

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You know what - I am completely wrong. And i even have a 33 tiller 10 feet from where i am sitting now. Sergeant is correct as usual. All patio implements were white. Color threw me off, and i thought there was something in front of the tiller concealing the double pulleys.

Not sure what that is from. Maybe an ariens? Power King?

I bow humbly to your superior Deere knowledge.

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Troy you don't need a Rear PTO to run a tiller on your X485 I run a Hydraulic tiller on my X485 which is run of the mid PTO all you need is the 3point hitch for your X485


BTW the Hydraulic tiller for the 325 thur GX355 and the X530 thru X540 is actually the same tiller all you need to convert those 42inch Hydraulic tiller is a Diffrent PTO pump and the tiller 3point frame which just bolts on to the top of the tiller:thThumbsU
 

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I wish that show room number 33 tiller were mine. But it someones from WFM. I don't have a Rear PTO on my 140H3 anyways. You can't use the 3point hitch on the 140 if you have the PTO mounted only a Integral hitch.:thThumbsU
 

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The hydraulic tiller would be the way to go with the belly mount pump, then you don't have to buy the rear pto, I have a model 30 hydraulic tiller that I bought a bracket for and converted it to hook to my 3 point hitch on my 322. These hydraulic tillers are very impressive and they can be run in both forward or reverse tine just by switching the brackets around. I am not sure of the going rate for a newer hydraulic tiller but the older model 30 sells anywhere between 500-1500 depending on condition and all that. I got very lucky and found a practically unused one for 500.

 

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I found a hydraulic on a auction, says 32" ?? hard to tell if it is a 30 or 42 but looks like a 30inch.
Does any one know how much it would be for the 12 inch extension?
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Sergeant... Where did you get the tiller 3pt frame and pto pump for yours? I have a x495 and my brother has one of the hydraulic tillers of a gx345 that he doesnt use anymore. Also if you can remember what you paid for them would be great. Thanks
 

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I bought my Hydrauliic tiller already set up that way from the dealer since the tiller is made to be used with Both series.

Hydraulic pump Part # AM131892 for use on X400 thru X700 series tractors

Parts numbers for frame
1 R58262 PIN FASTENER X 1
2 M41728 SPRING LOCKING PIN X 3
3 M146161 MAST X 2 REAR
4 M146160 MAST X 2 FRONT
5 19M7837 SCREW X 1 M12 By 110
6 M146162 BUSHING X 1
7 M139999 SCREW X 4
8 M134531 PLUG X 2
9 M134497 TUBE X 1
10 A15146 PIN X 2
11 14M7401 LOCK NUT X 5 M12
12 AM131742 BRACKET X 1 LIFT
13 M134532 PLUG X 2
14 R58261 PIN FASTENER X 2
15 M131873 LIFT ARM X 2
Hope this answers your question for converting that tiller to be used on your X495:thThumbsU
I paid abour $2,200 for the tiller already set up that way But since you already have the tiller end I don't know what the Pump costs Separately or the Frame
 

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Troy that tiller if it a 30 inch is not the same Hydraulic tiller for your X series tractor it was designed for the 300,312,316,318,322,330,332.
 
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