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I have 2 bolt on wheel weights and 6 suitcase weights on with my 47" blower. Does it have a chance with turfs or should I get the HDAPS now and save myself some grief.....:thanku:
 

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Is the 700 4wd? If so, you should be okay.
 

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If you put chains on you can just stay with the turfs! I recommend 2 link (spacing) chains!
 

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Is your driveway flat or on a grade? I suspect the weight will be sufficient if your driveway is almost level but if you have any steep sections you could run into problems.
 

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If you put chains on you can just stay with the turfs! I recommend 2 link (spacing) chains!
:ditto: I always use chains with turf tires. Not sure how well it will work, but I am going to try plowing with the HDAPs without chains this winter.
 

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:ditto: You will need chains but with them you can handle just about any surface, even ice.
 

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Well it is 2WD and I do have some smaill driveway slopes... I can't use chains because I have decorative concrete and I am not going to take a chance and scratch it up with chains.... Just hoping that much weight would do it....:dunno:
 

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Well it might just do it, its a heavy machine and you have a good amount of weight on the back
 

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I ran my X540 and 47" blower last year without chains as a test. It does have HDAPs and I had 4 suitcase weights. I did not like the way it handled my short paved driveway that has a slit grade. The rear end felt way too light, even with diff lock I would spin often and go no where it seemed. Happened mainly when in reverse backing up the slight grade. So I added the 50# wheel weights, that helped quite a bit. This year I will put the chains on and it will be perfect. If I were you, I'd lower the air pressure in the rear turfs and try it out if chains are out of the question. Then you could always load your tires and I bet with that much weight you would be happy (until you got on ice). If that dont work, trade in the X700 for an X728.
 

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Well it is 2WD and I do have some smaill driveway slopes... I can't use chains because I have decorative concrete and I am not going to take a chance and scratch it up with chains.... Just hoping that much weight would do it....:dunno:
Here is your metal tire chain alternative.

http://www.rubbertirechains.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=45
http://www.rubbertirechains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=45
http://www.superior-tech.com/terragrips_01.php
 

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There are 2 possible traction improvements over what you have, and neither involves a change of tires or addition of chains. However, one of them does require a 3PH.

Load the tires with Rimguard and get a back blade.

But first, I'd try what you already have and see if the additional help is really needed. I load the tires on my snow equipment as a matter of course, then start piling on the weight.
 

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Rubber chains. Your blower will mark up the drive too, not as bad as chains though. I have heard great things about the rubber "chains".
 

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I tried chainless HDAPS on the X485. With six suitcase weights it worked great until an ice storm came through. On ice it was pretty worthless without chains. Threw on the chains and went back to blowin'.
 

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not even a chance with turfs and no chains!

the first snow where the tires are sitting on almost dry pavement it might work but once you are going over packed snow or ICE your done.

HDAPs are not even a guarantee of no chains depending on how hilly or icy...

4WD would help... its what my buddy had to do with a decorative driveway... problem is the 4WD did not protect his decorative driveway from his scrapper bar and skid shoes... :(



Here are turfs (with CHAINS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dyoup-StaA



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Well it is 2WD and I do have some smaill driveway slopes... I can't use chains because I have decorative concrete and I am not going to take a chance and scratch it up with chains.... Just hoping that much weight would do it....:dunno:
I used 6 suitcase weights and Ag's On MY X485(same as X720) and That’s with a 54inch Plow and since You don't what To use Chains those are the tires I Suggest The HDAP are fine without chains On the 4WD or AWD Models But for the 2WD Models I really suggest Ag's:thThumbsU
 

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Do chains really tear up concrete if you don't spin them?
Also has anyone had experience with these rubber chains? Do they really work well enough?:thanku:
 

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I was able to plow with my previous X534. I used 4 suitcase weights on the back and 50lb wheel weights. The only time I had trouble was after a heavy snow storm that dropped very slushy snow for the first couple of inches followed by another 5 inches of normal snow. Just couldn't get down to a clean surface that the tires could get traction on and push all that weight.

I do agree that chains or not. You are going to scratch up the decorative concrete drive with the blower skids and scraper. The best alternative that I know of is a plow with a rubber strip bolted to the scraper edge. That's what I used all last winter on my new setup. Worked great at cleaning all the way down to clean pavement if you get to it before anything packs the snow down. The rubber horse stall mat I used to make the scraper does a fine job and holds up well but it's still too flexible to scrape hard packed stuff. It' entirely up to you but if it were me I would NOT drop a blower on that drive even once. It will scratch it up. Good luck with whatever you decide! :thThumbsU
 

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I never use chains...I snowblew fro years with my Cub single stage, had both rear turffs loaded with washer fluid, wheel weights and a 50# bag of sand under the seat and a 70# lathe chuck bolted on the ball mount. I live in the northeast near Syracuse and again NEVER used chains !
 

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Your gunna mark the driveway up either way. Be it tire chains or like others have said with the scraper bar, thats just life.... btw whats a decorative concrete driveway look like. I have a concrete driveway... how do I decorate it?
 
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