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I use a front blade with 4 way hydraulics and i wanted be able to use a 3pt, however there wasn't enough hydraulics to go around. So for my 425 I bought a Kolpin dirtworks 3pt hitch and I like it. However the electric actuator doesn't have enough guts and is slow.

I do like that the hitch is removable for mowing and isn't hanging off the back when I don't need it. So I have already made the receiver hitch for the x700.

To sweeten the deal on the 425, I want to include the kolpin 3pt hitch or maybe sell it separately instead of reusing it on the x700 due to the faults.

However I will "borrow" the design and build one using a hydraulic cylinder and the boat trim motor pump. borrowed the idea from another MTF member, sorry I will give credit when I remember. He used it to lift his snowblower on a 300 series JD.

Do I build the new 3pt hitch to use Cat 1 or Cat 0 attachments. I am leaning toward Cat1, since the are more readily available. To my knowledge the major difference is the pin size and distance between the pins. Am I correct?

I know I won't be able to use a 6ft box blade due to limitations of the x700, but it is easier to find a 4ft box blade and rear blades in cat 1 than cat 0 used, which is most of time cheaper.

Let me know your thoughts, Thanks!.

 

[SonnyT]

Cat 1. Pins are bigger and dimensions are different than Cat O.

 

[Diesel Powered]

Cat 1 for sure. That x700 will break Cat 0 implements. Like you said, Cat 1 stuff is also easier to find. I'm not sure how set you are on having it run with a 12v actuator of some kind, but you could potentially add an extra hydraulic valve to control the rear and just use a standard 3 point from Deere. They're super easy to take off and put on.

I'm not sure what all you're wanting to do with it, but my 4' box blade with 4 tines will stop the x748 in the right soil conditions.

 

[Sergeant]

The Other difference between Cat 1 & 0 is the Width of the Arms themselves The Cat 1 are thicker and the Cat 0 are Narrower I have Bent Cat 0 Arms Before Using Cat0/1 Implements which were Basically Cat 1 Implements with Cat 0 pins Facing inwards On the Implement and the Person that made the snow blower Lift was On a LX100 series I believe But that a Interesting idea But there is a way I believe to run the extra Cylinder off the internal Hydraulic system while running the front Blade with something like this http://www.vandminc.com/vmsite/vm/sv.html :thThumbsU

 

[Sergeant]

Cat 1 for sure. That x700 will break Cat 0 implements. Like you said, Cat 1 stuff is also easier to find. I'm not sure how set you are on having it run with a 12v actuator of some kind, but you could potentially add an extra hydraulic valve to control the rear and just use a standard 3 point from Deere. They're super easy to take off and put on.

I'm not sure what all you're wanting to do with it, but my 4' box blade with 4 tines will stop the x748 in the right soil conditions.

You Can Get a X465 thru X749 with either Cat 0 or Limited Cat 1 3point Hitch So I would Not worry about Breaking Cat 0 Implements on a X700 series:thThumbsU

 

[Diesel Powered]

You Can Get a X465 thru X749 with either Cat 0 or Limited Cat 1 3point Hitch So I would Not worry about Breaking Cat 0 Implements on a X700 series:thThumbsU

Just because you can potentially get it, doesn't mean it's a good idea. :biglaugh:

A properly weighted x7xx has some pretty serious pull.

Also, I thought I remembered the Cat0 option being discontinued. There are some cobwebs upstairs, though.. so that might not be right. :trink40:

 

[jwill1776]

I would build your hitch for Cat 1. Cat 0 pin spacing is 20”, Cat 1 spacing is 26”. If you build your hitch correctly you would be able to use both implements sizes if you use bushings over the top of the Cat 0 pins.

Most Cat 0 implements were built fairly rugged back in the day when they were being built, unless you are doing something really stupid I don’t think your X700 could damage any of the old Brinly Cat 0 implements.

 

[tooldad]

thanks for the input. just to clarify, I plan to use a hydraulic cylinder to operate the removable 3pt hitch.

What I plan to do is pull snow away from garage doors with a rear blade, and grade my loose gravel driveway. Nothing that would seriously overwork the tractor.

I have no experience with the hydraulic splitters, any input on those would be acceptable. What I do not prefer to do is to have to switch all the time to go back and forth. With the trim pump I can put a 3rd control lever mounted to the fender and have access to all 3 hydraulics all the time.

Again thanks for input.

 

[Sergeant]

The 425 thru 455 Have the same trans as the 2wd Models In the X465 thru X700 series and they were Cat 0 Not Limited Cat 1 and You can still order a Cat 0 with the X700 series it Optional which One You want The Cat 0 is BM17327 But It costs the same as the Limited Cat 1 So at that Point it is a No Brainier But to go with the Limited Cat 1 considering Brinly the Largest Cat 0 Implements Producer is No Longer Making Cat 0 Implements BTW the specs for Lifting Both the Cat 0 & Limited Cat 1 are the same 450Lbs on the X465 thru X749. The Main reason I went with Limited Cat 1 over Cat 0 on my X485 in 2003 was the cost of the Implements Cat 1 Implements have always cost less than Cat 0 Implements. I Paid something like $129 for a 4foot Cat0/1 Blade In 2000 and the same size Blade In Cat 0 was $450.00 That’s when I was Buying a Blade to use on both my White GT2055 and JD 425 at the time all I had to do was Buy Cat 1 pins for the Blade to use it on my X485 with Limited Cat 1 But a X700 series is Not Going to tear up Cat 0 Implements. Heck I can Now Use sleeve Hitch Implements On my Limited Cat 1 3point and I’m Not worried about tearing them Up and My Garden is 3 acres which I Plow and till every Year twice a year. It wil Be Nice to use the X485 for Both duties Now and Leave my smaller Cubs for Cultivating duties:thThumbsU

 

[Diesel Powered]

The implements you're thinking of apparently aren't the ones I'm thinking of. There's a reason they say "up to 20hp" for Cat0. We'll just leave it at that. :trink39:

 

[johndeere3720]

I would run Category 1 all the way. :fing32:

 

[MightyMouse X700]

Cat 1 all the way this way the rear quick hitch will fit for other implements as far as extra hydraulics go. At the moment no, Sorry I'm not alot of help. What I did was give up the hydraulic angle of the front for the time being. My top lever still works the 3 point and my bottom lever works the front blade up and down.

A hydraulic multiplier should operate that just fine though if you really wanted. Personally for the blade work I do my rear blade covers the needs for when I angle, however I've been thinking of adding a multiplier myself for the front. If you do this Good Luck and keep us posted.

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[Sergeant]

The implements you're thinking of apparently aren't the ones I'm thinking of. There's a reason they say "up to 20hp" for Cat0. We'll just leave it at that. :trink39:

There are several tractor Out there that exceed 20HP That have Cat 0 3point Hitches The Not to exceed 20HP was Made when Most Garden tractors did not exceed 20HP They we basically thinking any thing over 20HP was a Tractor and Not a Garden tractor Late Model Power King's would Be a prime example of a Cat 0 on a tractor that went Past 20HP even the 445 & 455 went Past 20HP and They Only Had Cat 0 3point Hitches:thThumbsU