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I heard we were in for some weather, as in bad, later today and through the night, so I was checking around the interweb for updates and found these terms describing what could occur in the Northeast part of the Country. Don't recall seeing these terms before. Anyhow, it would seem if the process of bombogenesis occurs, then you have a bomb cyclone. Which means, generally, pressure must drop 24 millibars (a unit of pressure) within 24 hours, plus other factors I guess.

In my terms we're going to get some strong winds to 60mph, rain up to and over 3 inches and widespread flooding. With that soak and high winds might be some trees uprooting also. This one might sneak up on some folks. If you're in the path, please be safe.
 

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The terms have previously been used among meteorologists. As with any technical field, there is scientific jargon associated.

Now that weather is an advertising monster the network writers are releasing this terminology to the public to drum up views. Like winter storm names? Yeah NOAA does not recognize those and actually prefers others do not use them. It makes every winter storm seem like a hurricane thus fueling the "weather as news" cycle.
 

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I can see that, I mean those terms sound pretty ominous, right? Click bait a go-go. I saw bomb cyclone, and visions of my toilet exploding under me filled my head.
 

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I'm gonna bring in an armful of stove wood JIC I read the OP and checked my weather and we're in for another blow. Thanks for the heads up. :D
 

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Ellis and others,
Stay safe. We are just supposed to get rain & some wind further inland here. We can use it. Ground is dry as a bone.
 

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I'd never heard of a "Polar Vortex" until a couple/few years ago.
You think they didn't exist before?
Buzz words to keep you distracted from the poor quality of their forecast.
 

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The terms have previously been used among meteorologists. As with any technical field, there is scientific jargon associated.

Now that weather is an advertising monster the network writers are releasing this terminology to the public to drum up views. Like winter storm names? Yeah NOAA does not recognize those and actually prefers others do not use them. It makes every winter storm seem like a hurricane thus fueling the "weather as news" cycle.
Actually, you are very right! ONLY the Weather Channel names winter storms in an effort to boost clicks and ratings and no other websites follow their lead unless they are part of the corporate ownership. IBM has been the longtime owner of the Weather Channel, but was sold last year to Entertainment Studios.

Technical jargon is very different than layman's terms and is often used by those reporters that have zero science background to give the impression that they are knowledgeable on whatever subject.
 

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Actually, you are very right! ONLY the Weather Channel names winter storms in an effort to boost clicks and ratings and no other websites follow their lead unless they are part of the corporate ownership. IBM has been the longtime owner of the Weather Channel, but was sold last year to Entertainment Studios.

Technical jargon is very different than layman's terms and is often used by those reporters that have zero science background to give the impression that they are knowledgeable on whatever subject.
One of our local stations has a weatherman who was on the Weather Channel. He did the local weather here for a few years, was hired by the WC, spent three years there and then returned here. Before he was funny and somewhat self deprecating. Now he just likes to try and impress the local audience with meteorological terms that we don’t usually hear. I rarely watch him as I’d rather hear the weather report in layman’s terms.
I have a hard time watching the Weather Channel and Jim Cantore. Just a bit too “over the top” for me.
 

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The good thing about this storm is that it is moving very quickly and won't stick around for days (see Blizzard of '78, Feb.6-7). We are still expecting 2-4" in 12-18 hours as it passes directly over New York and New England.
 

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The good thing about this storm is that it is moving very quickly and won't stick around for days (see Blizzard of '78, Feb.6-7). We are still expecting 2-4" in 12-18 hours as it passes directly over New York and New England.
We’re expecting about 2” of rain and 50-60 mph winds along the SW Maine coast. But to echo the overall theme of the thread, the stations and forecasters are doing their part in over sensationalizing the storm.
 

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One of our local stations has a weatherman who was on the Weather Channel. He did the local weather here for a few years, was hired by the WC, spent three years there and then returned here. Before he was funny and somewhat self deprecating. Now he just likes to try and impress the local audience with meteorological terms that we don’t usually hear. I rarely watch him as I’d rather hear the weather report in layman’s terms.
I have a hard time watching the Weather Channel and Jim Cantore. Just a bit too “over the top” for me.
When I was at college in Biddeford back in the 70's we would always watch the weather from Poland Springs channel 8 with weatherman Marty Angstrom reporting from the summit of Mount Washington.The meteorologists would get snow bound up there for days at a time and based on Marty I think they went a little nuts.
 

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When I was at college in Biddeford back in the 70's we would always watch the weather from Poland Springs channel 8 with weatherman Marty Angstrom reporting from the summit of Mount Washington.The meteorologists would get snow bound up there for days at a time and based on Marty I think they went a little nuts.
Gotta love Marty!
Here’s his last forecast from the rock pile.

 

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We had the Bomb Cyclone last night. It was beautiful starry sky, then thunder and lightning and pounding rain for about 3-4 hours. No damage, no trees up-routed. I think it was just beginning to ramp up, you know up in Canada we make the bad weather, lol.
 

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The terms have previously been used among meteorologists. As with any technical field, there is scientific jargon associated.

Now that weather is an advertising monster the network writers are releasing this terminology to the public to drum up views. Like winter storm names? Yeah NOAA does not recognize those and actually prefers others do not use them. It makes every winter storm seem like a hurricane thus fueling the "weather as news" cycle.
Helps fuel the global-warming religion.... and helps funnel all the $$ that comes with it.....
 

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The first weatherman I recall was Tex Antoine in the late 60's on Channel 7 Eyewitness News out of NYC. He drew pictures and really explained the weather. He was also pretty "colorful" shall we say, and that led to Storm Field taking over in I think the mid/late 70's. Strictly as to the broadcast, Tex made watching the weather fun as a kid. Storm was more the pretty boy.

The storm was pretty much as advertised. High winds, ton of rain. Branches and leaves everywhere. Lost power for a couple hours. But no major damage.
 

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Wally2q. You nailed it. Have watched this theater evolve for over 60 years now.

Storms have come and gone since before man was on earth. Now, the weather services have to sell advertising time on whatever media they are on. First you hear of some 'bomb' this or that, but no details, rather "tune in at 6". That is when the ad payoffs occurs.

Weather men? My favorite was Sonny Elliott in Detroit, a B17 crewman, shot down and a POW in WWII. What a character, worked wonders with a green chalk board, a big chunk of chalk that he often dropped, and about 5 jokes in each weather report. He was on in the regular weather report slot, and never in between, you had to catch the weather or wait for the next regular news and weather report.

OMG!!! How on earth ever did we survive???!!!!
 

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Had some towns south of mine about 30 miles away get 90 mph winds last night--many trees downed,over 200,000 with no power across MA right now..

Sounded like a 4 hour freight train going by at my house last night from about midnight to 4 am..rain came down sideways--here the winds peaked around 50 mph,but it sounded like the cyclone was right above my area those 4 hours,higher up in the atmosphere..

Quite a bit of damage was done all across MA,especially along the southeast coast and along the beaches of Duxbury and Marshfield...luckily my power stayed on all night,but this is the end of "leaf peeping" probably,seems every year just before the peak colors arrive,the trees get stripped of their leaves by heavy rain & high winds..

Some parts of the Birkshires got 4" of rain..my area got about an inch,and I'm lucky my roof didn't leak into the ceilings again..roofer who was supposed to fix my roof hasn't contacted me since I accepted his estimate for nearly 2 weeks,and time is running out,I'm beginning to get angry!..I knew he's "busy",but at least could let me know when he plans to get around to my house..
 

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I used to do multi million dollar highway paving contracts. They always included a start date, an end date, and detailed provisions in case the dates were missed.

Certainly nothing like the work I get contracted around the house, but the concepts are the same. The price quote should have the details of what, where, and when, along with proof of insurance that covers me if there is a mishap.

Contractors have this stuff at their fingertips and should not be surprised when asked for it.

A contractor who doesn't, or can't immediately provide, or commit to these things is immediately disqualified.
 

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Supposedly the company is "one of the best" in my area,has lots of glowing online reviews,and they have all the required insurance,etc--but it appears all the roofers around here are "very busy" and have plenty of newly constructed homes to put roofs on,and my 41 year old house comes last,seeing it will likely require some wood decking replaced,and this company also does chimney repair..

The weather has not been roofer friendly the past 2 weeks either,so I assume they are "behind" and trying to catch up..

Other "roofers" I have been referred to seem to be the fly by night crackhead types,who likely lack insurance and other required things,and I'm reluctant to take my chances with any of them,not knowing if they will take a deposit and vanish,or start the job,and take a month off before they might return to finish it,and do a crappy job..
I can only afford to do this once!.....many "scary" stories online under the "reviews" about most all of the roofers around here..


I was quoted $4000 to re-roof just the south facing side of the hip roof that is failing & leaking-(guy claims the other 3 sides of the hip roof have maybe 5+ more years left,and I'm not really in a position to have it all done now)--also have the top 3-4 courses of bricks removed & replaced and a new crown put on the chimney,plus clean all the gutters and re-attach them...they will put the synthetic underlayment and ice shield and replace any rotted wood...this guy was the only one willing to do only a partial re-roofing..he'll also clean up and dispose of all the old shingles and leave no nails lying around too..

I can afford that,and still be able to pay my property tax bill ($1200 for the last quarter of 2019) and the house insurance next month..
I'd try to get a loan and do the whole roof at once if I was sure I could pay it off,but I'm not,and I do not want to lose the house to a bank,or to back taxes..plus I'd like to keep some money in reserve for when anything else in the house decides to quit,and you know it will,being almost 50 years old..


None of the other quotes I got were in my budget--cheapest one was $6000 just to re-roof the whole thing ,with only some ice shield and tar paper underneath.no chimney work or gutter repair/cleaning either..others I got were in the $7000-$10,000 dollar range for just the roof only..since I may not end up living here as long as I'd hoped,I can only afford to do what is really needed at the moment..

My health is going downhill fast,and there is a 16 acre lot next to my property currently listed as "unbuildale wetland",but so was the 150 acres beside it ,now there are 100+ McMansions in that spot..

I see a new easement to the street has been added to the plot plan recently,also the owners name has changed,and I will not be surprised if the town grants a variance or zoning change,they are putting homes on every available lot formerly deemed "unbuildable" now that town sewers have been put on this street..

If I end up having 20 homes in my back yard,that may be the final straw,and my 42 years of living here may come to an end..also I'm sure the taxes will continue go up,possibly enough that I wont be able to afford to stay here--thus I'm looking only to keep the interior of the house from getting any more damage..whoever ends up with it when I'm gone can worry about fixing it "right"...I do not want to do a partial roof replacement,but you can't always do what you'd like when your not well off financially..
 
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