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I just made a major investment in my health. I have to make some changes or I won't live to see my grandsons grow up. Pictured: My oldest grandson on his first road ride.

I bought this on Tuesday night I've ridden it three of the last four days and I absolutely love it.

it's not cheap but neither are medical bills; pay me now or pay me later.

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That looks to be very comfortable to ride. I still have my Schwinn LeTour III from 1979. Haven't ridden in a few years but have been thinking of starting up again. I was also kind of thinking about one of those fat tire bikes which look ready to handle all kinds of terrain including the rough city streets. Enjoy your new ride and the time riding with family. Bill
 

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I hate to run but like to ride a bike. I have several fairly nice 18-21 sp mountain bikes and I have been thinking about riding some.
I saw one of my neighbors riding a few times. Everyone walks or jogs around here. He is the only one I have seen biking.

Walking is lame unless that is all you are capable of doing. It give no cardiovascular benefit to speak of as I can walk forever but can't even jog two blocks without slowing to barely over a walk.
I had a nuclear stress test last month. Their definition of stress is a lot different than mine. I was expecting The Six Million Dollar Man test with seat pouring and a towel around my neck maybe a wet cooling one to go until I had to slow down or stop.

I am NOT in that good of shape..remember I can't jog two blocks.

They must get a lot of out or shape, really fatter than me, or people with real serious conditions since they went on and on about how everything was so great and how well I was doing. I really didn't take it as stoking my ego. I got a gut and almost manboobs!

I completed the the test and they take you to target heart rate which was 157 for me...That tells me I'm getting old. I remember it being much higher..and some other number which the higher the better I think.(mpr or something)

I went 9 minutes and never even had to jog. Literally a fast walk and I'm only 5'9" and no Barbie legs.
After it was "completed" she said I could keep going if I wanted to. OF COURSE..For the price my insurance was paying I expect to be on here at least 30 minutes and if you don't have to get the AED out, smelling salts, or mouth to mouth (the nurses were quite hot) I feel cheated!!
She said keep going bu tin 30 seconds it would incline more and increase speed to next notch. ONLY then did I jog lightly. I fast walked with long stride for first 20 seconds or so but found it easier to jog.
Only then did it break a sweat or get at all winded.
So I continued to chat with her and soapbox whatever in the world I was griping about that day for about 4 minutes.
Stressful IT WAS NOT!
Jog two blocks....HAVE TO slow down and walk to breath. Our blocks are long with every lot being 100 ft frontage but still....
Even easy sex is( I mean non strenuous--shouldn't use easy in this context- cause take it easy. And if it's easy, take it again) is more exerting than the "stress" test. (except for the darn charlie horses. Nothin puts a damper on a good mattress dance, roll in the hay, physical encounter---whatever you call it--than...OUCH! Owww! My leg!!! LEG CRAMP!!
Just throw me in the pool and let me drown because is I ate within 15 minutes, I guess.

I can ride a bike all day. SQUIRREL!!! That is what we were taking about..right?
I forget sometimes...Most times really.
I got the best gel seat money could buy....well best they had at walmart. That's the extent of my in store splurging. Did I mention "if it's easy"?
The seat I think it's a seat , they make covers too. I think I started with one of those on another bike and got the super duper Bell gel (hey that rhymes) seat...is really soft on the butt, bottom, tailbone, gluteus maximus, da-donka-donk. I stand on one pedal a lot of the time anyway so I can ride a long time.
 

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Nice looking recumbent. I've never tried one, but seems that it would take some time to get accustomed with the riding position. I ride a 29" beach cruiser around the many bike paths here.
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I would like to add this to the mix. I have been an avid bike rider since I was a kid. I am now going to be 67. When everyone was getting their drivers license, and I did eventually get mine when I was a junior in high school, I continued to ride my bike. With that being said I have become a bit lax in the biking world the past few years and need to get back to it.

With regard to walking I do take issue with the comment that walking is lame, unless that is all you can do. At age 34 I decided to take up competitive race walking as did my wife. I pursued the race circuit, sometimes competing in 30 to 40 races a year. We have a very famous race here in the Quad Cities, a seven miler called the Bix 7, named after the famous musician Bix Beiderbecke. I did that race walking for 25 years straight and at my peak I could do the seven miles in just over 70 minutes or a little over a 10 minute mile. I have also done a one mile sprint racewalking in 8 1/2 minute mile pace and have done 5k's in 28 minute pace. My point here is this. Most people that are out for a casual stroll walk at about a 16 to 17 minute mile pace. A brisk walk would be around a 15 minute pace. If a person is not getting any benefit from walking it is because they are not putting enough effort into it. Believe me, I put tons of effort into training, workouts, and events and it showed.

The bottom line is this. Any physical activity is better than none whether it be biking, walking, jogging, swimming, or pushing a lawnmower. Just remember not to knock something just because you don't care to do it. Bill
 

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I would like to add this to the mix. I have been an avid bike rider since I was a kid. I am now going to be 67. When everyone was getting their drivers license, and I did eventually get mine when I was a junior in high school, I continued to ride my bike. With that being said I have become a bit lax in the biking world the past few years and need to get back to it.

With regard to walking I do take issue with the comment that walking is lame, unless that is all you can do. At age 34 I decided to take up competitive race walking as did my wife. I pursued the race circuit, sometimes competing in 30 to 40 races a year. We have a very famous race here in the Quad Cities, a seven miler called the Bix 7, named after the famous musician Bix Beiderbecke. I did that race walking for 25 years straight and at my peak I could do the seven miles in just over 70 minutes or a little over a 10 minute mile. I have also done a one mile sprint racewalking in 8 1/2 minute mile pace and have done 5k's in 28 minute pace. My point here is this. Most people that are out for a casual stroll walk at about a 16 to 17 minute mile pace. A brisk walk would be around a 15 minute pace. If a person is not getting any benefit from walking it is because they are not putting enough effort into it. Believe me, I put tons of effort into training, workouts, and events and it showed.

The bottom line is this. Any physical activity is better than none whether it be biking, walking, jogging, swimming, or pushing a lawnmower. Just remember not to knock something just because you don't care to do it. Bill
You don't need to take issue with my statement. It wasn't meant to be mean or demeaning toward anyone. My jogging lame to a runner because they would say not getting anything or at least nearly enough out of it.

Speed walking is no joke and not lame. It is also not what most people do around the neighborhood as you pointed out. They rarely even hit brisk.

It is better than being sedentary but not getting a lot of cardiovascular out of it. Some, of course are not in a position of heath to want to or be able to get cardiovascular exertion from anything.
Not slamming anyone, although I have no problem doing so as I quickly and always make sure to slam myself first.
That makes it ok. Or it should make it easier for people to swallow. If not, I'm not worried too much about it.
I can go to strictly fact that no one can( or less likely to) get bent out of shape over like....fast walking or speed walking burns off more calories per hour than walking, running burns off more and is more of a workout for heart and lungs than walking etc. But I usually don't.

I just had dinner with a group of about 15 people tonight. I was slamming myself for being fat. I say fat too. When I get a little thinner I will have to not say that as I will offend people who are overweight. You can say fat people when you are fat only.

I was telling them that (I've recently lost 25lbs) a whole new world is opening up to me.
I couldn't go horseback riding as I was told 250 was limit. I can't go indoor skydiving, couldn't fly the single place homebuilt helicopters around 2001 (I know- who would want to right??) Couldn't pick up any girl over a beanpole on my sportbike as it would bottom out on the stupid shocks from someone lowering them in the triple clamps and me being too lazy to raise them.

Probably couldn't bungee jump at the tourist attraction places either. Are they more afreaid of you dying or you breaking their rope.
Why can't I lay on the wire gate at the bottom of the indoor skydiving and get cooled off?? I don't mind the shaming.

Not that I don't care to do the other things like walking. Just saying that if you are trying to lose weight or get into shape or increase cardiovascular endurance/stamina there are better ways IF you can go up to those steps.
I CAN'T go up to running or even maintaining a jog. I can't do it. I have to slow and walk then start up again.
I hope I can increase time if I do it more, but a bike is so much easier on me but more exerting than walking so it is appealing to me.
 

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I walked for exercise for 28 years. Jogging/running puts stress on the joints and connecting tissue. They say that folks who have been running for many years may be less affected. I began riding a bike 19 years ago. No mountain biking, just roads and bike paths. As I got older, the hills of the Adirondacks became too much to pedal. So I bought an ebike. I liked it so much I also added a kit onto my old Mongoose. Now I can handle the hills with ease. I still get plenty of exercise while riding, as you can adjust the assist level as little or as much as needed. My wife rides her ebike with me and enjoys it just as much as I do.

If you like riding, but don't like the hills or can't handle them like you used to, visit some bike shops and try a couple of ebikes. You may be surprised at how much fun they are. There are probably hundreds of different styles and features available if you search online.
 

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I hate to run but like to ride a bike. I have several fairly nice 18-21 sp mountain bikes and I have been thinking about riding some.
I saw one of my neighbors riding a few times. Everyone walks or jogs around here. He is the only one I have seen biking.

Walking is lame unless that is all you are capable of doing. It give no cardiovascular benefit to speak of as I can walk forever but can't even jog two blocks without slowing to barely over a walk.
I had a nuclear stress test last month. Their definition of stress is a lot different than mine. I was expecting The Six Million Dollar Man test with seat pouring and a towel around my neck maybe a wet cooling one to go until I had to slow down or stop.

I am NOT in that good of shape..remember I can't jog two blocks.

They must get a lot of out or shape, really fatter than me, or people with real serious conditions since they went on and on about how everything was so great and how well I was doing. I really didn't take it as stoking my ego. I got a gut and almost manboobs!

I completed the the test and they take you to target heart rate which was 157 for me...That tells me I'm getting old. I remember it being much higher..and some other number which the higher the better I think.(mpr or something)

I went 9 minutes and never even had to jog. Literally a fast walk and I'm only 5'9" and no Barbie legs.
After it was "completed" she said I could keep going if I wanted to. OF COURSE..For the price my insurance was paying I expect to be on here at least 30 minutes and if you don't have to get the AED out, smelling salts, or mouth to mouth (the nurses were quite hot) I feel cheated!!
She said keep going bu tin 30 seconds it would incline more and increase speed to next notch. ONLY then did I jog lightly. I fast walked with long stride for first 20 seconds or so but found it easier to jog.
Only then did it break a sweat or get at all winded.
So I continued to chat with her and soapbox whatever in the world I was griping about that day for about 4 minutes.
Stressful IT WAS NOT!
Jog two blocks....HAVE TO slow down and walk to breath. Our blocks are long with every lot being 100 ft frontage but still....
Even easy sex is( I mean non strenuous--shouldn't use easy in this context- cause take it easy. And if it's easy, take it again) is more exerting than the "stress" test. (except for the darn charlie horses. Nothin puts a damper on a good mattress dance, roll in the hay, physical encounter---whatever you call it--than...OUCH! Owww! My leg!!! LEG CRAMP!!
Just throw me in the pool and let me drown because is I ate within 15 minutes, I guess.

I can ride a bike all day. SQUIRREL!!! That is what we were taking about..right?
I forget sometimes...Most times really.
I got the best gel seat money could buy....well best they had at walmart. That's the extent of my in store splurging. Did I mention "if it's easy"?
The seat I think it's a seat , they make covers too. I think I started with one of those on another bike and got the super duper Bell gel (hey that rhymes) seat...is really soft on the butt, bottom, tailbone, gluteus maximus, da-donka-donk. I stand on one pedal a lot of the time anyway so I can ride a long time.
ROFLMAO. .. most hilliarios Post. I'm a big FA so cannot relate.
 

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I walked for exercise for 28 years. Jogging/running puts stress on the joints and connecting tissue. They say that folks who have been running for many years may be less affected. I began riding a bike 19 years ago. No mountain biking, just roads and bike paths. As I got older, the hills of the Adirondacks became too much to pedal. So I bought an ebike. I liked it so much I also added a kit onto my old Mongoose. Now I can handle the hills with ease. I still get plenty of exercise while riding, as you can adjust the assist level as little or as much as needed. My wife rides her ebike with me and enjoys it just as much as I do.

If you like riding, but don't like the hills or can't handle them like you used to, visit some bike shops and try a couple of ebikes. You may be surprised at how much fun they are. There are probably hundreds of different styles and features available if you search online.
I live in flat land Ohio no hills. I did see an e-bike on Craigslist and I wonderd about them. That may be my next bike. For now I had to get something that would handle my weight.
 

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I would like to add this to the mix. I have been an avid bike rider since I was a kid. I am now going to be 67. When everyone was getting their drivers license, and I did eventually get mine when I was a junior in high school, I continued to ride my bike. With that being said I have become a bit lax in the biking world the past few years and need to get back to it.

With regard to walking I do take issue with the comment that walking is lame, unless that is all you can do. At age 34 I decided to take up competitive race walking as did my wife. I pursued the race circuit, sometimes competing in 30 to 40 races a year. We have a very famous race here in the Quad Cities, a seven miler called the Bix 7, named after the famous musician Bix Beiderbecke. I did that race walking for 25 years straight and at my peak I could do the seven miles in just over 70 minutes or a little over a 10 minute mile. I have also done a one mile sprint racewalking in 8 1/2 minute mile pace and have done 5k's in 28 minute pace. My point here is this. Most people that are out for a casual stroll walk at about a 16 to 17 minute mile pace. A brisk walk would be around a 15 minute pace. If a person is not getting any benefit from walking it is because they are not putting enough effort into it. Believe me, I put tons of effort into training, workouts, and events and it showed.

The bottom line is this. Any physical activity is better than none whether it be biking, walking, jogging, swimming, or pushing a lawnmower. Just remember not to knock something just because you don't care to do it. Bill
Well said and very accurate.?
 

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I live in flat land Ohio no hills. I did see an e-bike on Craigslist and I wonderd about them. That may be my next bike. For now I had to get something that would handle my weight.
I saw a guy on one today. Had pedals and everything but he wasn't using them. It took off awfully slow though.

While I like anything self powered...I have some issues with them...MAINLY from the past!!
Not really any different than a moped..an electric battery moped.

Now in my youth...I had a gas moped and it had pedals...BUT you could not pedal one even a block down the road. My cousin had a Honda with kick start. SAme 50cc..(really 49cc) engine but the MEAN state of Ohio and many others decided that IT HAD to have pedals to be a moped. Her little honda was motorcycle and that license required!

You ARE FORBIDDEN to ride a moped on a sidewalk...Now I know some palces (ones I don't like even though I don't know where they are) frown on or forbid bikes on sidewalks...BUT for most of US ...THAT's where we rode bikes and that's where they belong most of the time.

Sure we ride in neighborhood side streets, but the people on the main roads on a bike are HATED by most all motorists around here and a lot of places.

Then the manual scooters got popular and no problems there..same as bikes.

Then the battery scooters and smaller gas ones!!!! They LOST THEIR MINDS!
The govt...with it's affliction to regulate and control everything had to get in on this.
They forbid them from sidewalks BECAUSE NO MOTOR driven vehicles allowed on sidewalks....and then banned them from the streets....They called them motorcycles or motor scooters since no pedals for a moped...
A little 159.00 28cc weedeater engine scooter was harder to use than a Moped with up to 5 hp!! LOGIC ANYONE??
Not in govt!!!!!

SO..... My issue. I'm jealous for all the years of my past..for all the kids over the years.
This guy was just rolling along not a leg pedal movement in sight on th sidewalk on really main road! I will give him credit...he stopped for the light and waited until it turned green to go...MORE than most all human pedaled bikes I see!!!

NOW I think the sidewalk is much better than him being in the 45 mph street going maybe 6-8 mph from what I saw.
I just think that technically they are probably illegal in the sidewalks.

I've always hated the rule as I hate that dirtbikes cant ride on streets for even short distances....THERE is a stipulation in OH though...and I used it once for a [email protected] cop that decided he didn't like me as much as I didn't like him.
It allows for you to ride along the side of the road a certain distance IIRC to the place you are going to ride the dirtbike or ATV.
He pulled us over one time coming back but only got my friend as I was way far in front and "didn't hear" him.

I carries the Ohio code on the bike with me.
Yeah, I really had go arounds with this guy. All came out extremely for the better though.
They say things happen for a reason.
It another long story but if he and a few other things would not have been an issue I would still be living in that house..thinking I was happy and had it made. I have done so much more and owned so many more things in the past 16 years that would have NEVER occurred had it not been for jerks like him making me say SEE YA.

So they should change the laws. I think a speed limit on sidewalks is all that is needed.
A bike that is pedaled (man that word looks misspelled) can go 30+ mph and kill a pedestrian. A battery powered of gas bike rolling at 25-30 is less of a threat in many ways.
They also need to stop this engine or hp size crap. Anything can be designed or geared to do whatever you want....or what they think they are trying to prevent.
Don't think there will ever be a resurgence of gas bikes though...I think battery is the future and one of these days battery tech will catch up to 1990 and we might have good batteries.
 

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I used to bike to my day job when I lived in Vancouver, with a regular bike. It helped with my fitness, as I'm a computer guy who spends most of his time sitting in front of a computer. I did get in several accidents with cars, where they just didn't look before doing something, but I was very fortunate to get away with pretty minor injuries (primarily road rash).

I would not ride a recumbent bicycle in a city, particularly on any busy street. You are too low for people in cars or trucks to see you, you are wider than a regular bicycle, and it is more difficult to take evasive action if necessary, including bailing from the bicycle.
 

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I live in flat land Ohio no hills. I did see an e-bike on Craigslist and I wonderd about them. That may be my next bike. For now I had to get something that would handle my weight.
Most ebikes can handle up to 250 lbs., some go up to 300.

Riding on the sidewalk is not such a good idea because there are young kids riding their trikes and pedal cars, women with strollers and people walking. That's just inviting an accident.

For the motorists who are haters, bicycling has seen a resurgence in the last several years, so they will have to deal with it. Many municipalities have created bike lanes and wider shoulders for bikers. As a bike rider, you have to be careful how you ride and follow the rules...keep right, move to the center to turn left, use hand signals, etc. Distracted driving is probably the biggest reason people hit bikers. I always wear a helmet to help protect my cruller, but if you are hit you will most likely get hurt, maybe seriously.
 

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There may be a couple of the trike pilots here, I am one.
Before my industrial injury, I rode a regular Diamond Frame (DF) as my only means of transportation from 1999 to 2010, no vehicle nor even a drivers license. One could easily do that in the heavily populated and bike friendly area of Denver, CO. A car really wasn't necessary.
After the industrial injury, there was no way to ride a DF and began looking into anything else. Whenever I entered 'handicapped bicycles' into a search, Trikes kept on appearing. At first I was quite skeptical of the design, but after sitting and riding one for 20 feet, I knew I had found my answer.
So with one of the first court case injury payouts, I bought my first trike new, one made by Terratrike. In the end, that turned out to be almost a complete disaster, more on that in a bit. At first, the trike was everything I needed to regain some mobility for grocery shopping and other. Did start noticing some odd things, but thought it was part of the learning curve.
I was a member of Bent Riders, an online forum for recumbent bike and trike pilots, but in later years the forum became unbearable due to they only cared about speed and athletic performance. Still, they are the premier website to learn anything about trikes and have just about all manufacturers direct links at the top of the page.

https://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/index.php?

The first 3 months of the Terratrike were great, then mechanical problems started. After the internal gearing completely shattered, the trike was almost worthless. Contacting Terratrike, they point blank refused to do anything even though the trike was still under warranty, under 90 days. I removed the rear wheel where the internal gearing was and replaced with a single speed hub. That made the trike usable again.

A couple of months later, the court came through with the final payment. With the now single speed trike as a trade in and some more money, I got a much better constructed and much better riding trike from a company that stands behind their products. That company, HP Velotechnik, is a German company with several different models of recumbent trikes & bike.
Two days before the delivery of the HP Gekko FX trike, I found out I was being evicted from my house in Denver. Workmans Comp refused to pay out any monies while the injury was in litigation, which took almost two years. A week later, I became homeless and a week after that, I began my trike trip from Denver, CO to Pensacola, FL a journey of 2,600 miles. That took 3 months as I took my time. Heck I was homeless and remained that way for the next 3 years. In total, it took Social Security almost 5 years to litigate my case. With the back pay from SS, I bought my house so I am no longer homeless.

Now I live out in the boonies and there are no safe roads other than the unpaved dirt farm roads to travel on. Had to change the road tyres to knobbies and still ride the trike.
 

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I see that many have questions about alternative ways other than motor vehicles. That bentrideronline website may have answers for you. About in the middle of the page, you will see "SPECIALTY DISCUSSIONS". Click on that link and there you will find forums dedicated to all kinds of things from racing to home-built to clothing to power assist (e-bikes) to touring and many others. The forums are free to join and there is lots of good info there.
 

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Most ebikes can handle up to 250 lbs., some go up to 300.

Riding on the sidewalk is not such a good idea because there are young kids riding their trikes and pedal cars, women with strollers and people walking. That's just inviting an accident.

For the motorists who are haters, bicycling has seen a resurgence in the last several years, so they will have to deal with it. Many municipalities have created bike lanes and wider shoulders for bikers. As a bike rider, you have to be careful how you ride and follow the rules...keep right, move to the center to turn left, use hand signals, etc. Distracted driving is probably the biggest reason people hit bikers. I always wear a helmet to help protect my cruller, but if you are hit you will most likely get hurt, maybe seriously.

You rarely see a bike here usually it will be 2-3 teens who are too young to drive.
You almost never see a stroller on a sidewalk here and very few walking. You see more people running on sidewalks than walking.
This is suburbia. We all drive cars. We walk from the parking spot to the store.
We go to the gym to work out or one of many walking /running tracks at local rec centers etc.
People that walk, walk in neighborhoods around their house.
My city has almost no curbs and sidewalks and most of us love it. The ones who don't after the transplants that come from other states etc. Many actually wont move here due to lack of them.
We walk on edge of street. Sane for bikes on residential side roads.
Our main roads have sidewalks but you don't see a lot of use on them.
 

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Most ebikes can handle up to 250 lbs., some go up to 300.

Riding on the sidewalk is not such a good idea because there are young kids riding their trikes and pedal cars, women with strollers and people walking. That's just inviting an accident.

For the motorists who are haters, bicycling has seen a resurgence in the last several years, so they will have to deal with it. Many municipalities have created bike lanes and wider shoulders for bikers. As a bike rider, you have to be careful how you ride and follow the rules...keep right, move to the center to turn left, use hand signals, etc. Distracted driving is probably the biggest reason people hit bikers. I always wear a helmet to help protect my cruller, but if you are hit you will most likely get hurt, maybe seriously.
E-bike rider weight limits are a suggested value and are all over the board, some as low as 200 and some much much higher to over 400 pounds, it all depends on how much you wish to spend. The rating is usually based on how long the battery will last and not the frame or components of the e-bike.

Helmets are optional for adults on any bike or trike in most areas except for sanctioned races. Do they work? Maybe. I've been hit by vehicles, both sideswiped and t-boned, on DF bikes and a helmet didn't help any. The sideswipe hurt the most as I ripped the right side view mirror off a Camaro or Firebird when it struck my upper thigh. The vehicle never slowed and I ended in the ditch. My custom hand built Italian race bike with full Campy went under the rear wheels of the car. That was in the late '70's training for a race in Georgia.

Anyone that uses a cell phone while driving should have their license removed permanently. Driving a motor vehicle demands constant attention. I have two signs mounted in my truck, one says to turn your cell phone OFF and the other says that seatbelts are to be used at all times. Truck doesn't go anywhere if both conditions are not met.

While your rules for bike riders are somewhat commonsense, almost no one in any city follows those rules. The motor vehicles don't follow many of the laws and regulations set for them, so why have bike riders follow someone's rules? It confuses everyone. You have just as much right to be on the road as a motor vehicle. Yes, we also pay taxes.
 

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Recumbent bikes are okay, but not my cup of tea. I not only like the exercise, but I also like that 2 wheel bikes are great for maintaining balance-the muscular and visual system are constantly working together to keep a 2 wheeled bike balanced and that translates to an improvement in everyday non-biking activities.

Walking is lame

I am NOT in that good of shape..remember I can't jog two blocks.
Walking is not lame. Maybe if you tried spending some time walking you'd be able to jog a little.
 

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I used to cycle all the time, In fact, our honeymoon was a bike trip across Florida (it's not as flat as they say). I still have my Austro Daimler Inter 10 racing bike and I recently picked up a Cannondale "hybrid" bike at an auction that I really like for our rougher country roads.

The problem is I have two dogs. If I have an hour to go outside for a little exercise, the two girls are staring at me. I, of course, end up taking the dogs for a walk rather than hopping on the bike. It's the highlight of their (and usually my) day.

A little off topic: I'm sure most, if not all of the bikers here are familiar with "Breaking Away" but if not, it is a great movie!
 
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