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Hey dere;

I have a 3416 H and running a stock 42" stock blower, with 2 - 50 weights on both rears and chains . I got to running on my sloped driveway, it runs about 15 degrees and greater and wonder, how much more weight can the tractor and rigging handle, and how much difference will is make so that it wont' get stuck when I am driving back up the hill. Sure goes down hill better than uphill! LOL

Also, anybody else ever "smoke" a blower drive belt? Yesterday when working it noticed that it quit blowing and opened the front and the belt was bubbling. Kept throwing snow on it to cool it down. Lucky, no fire!

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Loading the tires is the most effective weighting method, and puts less stress on the axle. Some say that fast direction changes with loaded tires can cause excessive stress on the keys in your axle, but I'd worry about that more when plowing, not blowing.

The machine can handle a lot of weight, but at some point, you add so much weight you're stuggling to move it all around too. I'd fill them, then add your weights if you need more, and that's probably about it, IMO.
 

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my drive is pretty steep. The sovereigns can take a good amount of weight I just never need it. I use
loaded (WWF) tru powers and a rear stinger weight on one
turfs with 2 link chains and double simplicity wheel weights

and carlise ACT HD 25x11 50lb wheel weights and a stinger on the plow machine

Never had a issue with any of them.

I have not ever had a belt issue
 

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something as simple as chaining the chain "style" can make a difference. Instead on chains that go across the tire that resembles a ladder you can climb. Chains that are X or also known as star chains can make a huge difference. Also look at the width of you rear tires. You do not need a turf tire to blow snow. Narrower is better. You are basically putting more tractor weight pounds per square inch on the tire patch.

Give you a rough example. You have a car that the front end weights 2000 pounds on 12 inch wide tires. Assuming each tire has 1000 pounds on it. 1000/12"= 83 pounds per square inch. Try it with a narrower tire. 1000/6"= 167 pounds per square inch. This tells you in order to make the 12 wide tire have equal amount of pounds per square inch on the tire you would have to add 1000 more pounds to come up with 167 pounds to match the 6" wide tire. 15" wide legacy tire would be 66 pounds per square inch. In reality the real pounds on those tires and weight of the legacy is probably closer to 2 pounds per square inch.
My legacy rear winter tires are 6" wide with chains. Doesn't spin at all. Kid had his car stuck in the drift in the driveway, I put the snowblower on his bumper and pushed him out with no trouble at all. (This is a rough idea, actually you need to take couple pieces of paper and measure the entire surface patch area of the tire patch to get correct pounds per square inch, but gives you a idea what I am talking about wide vs narrow tires)

Changes like tire patch size is easy and doesn't add weight to the bearings or rear axle. Even though I still run wheel weights and 200 pounds in rear gravity box. It's a setup I started using when I first started blowing snow with turf tires which got stuck on a snowflake. I blow behind the house which is a hill about 45+ degree angle straight up. That's a rear walkway we use a lot during winter. It's grass and no sidewalk.
 

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Hey hotrod;

Do you mean that you are running 4 rear wheel weights total? And what is the weight on them?

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my drive is pretty steep. The sovereigns can take a good amount of weight I just never need it. I use
loaded (WWF) tru powers and a rear stinger weight on one
turfs with 2 link chains and double simplicity wheel weights

and carlise ACT HD 25x11 50lb wheel weights and a stinger on the plow machine

Never had a issue with any of them.

I have not ever had a belt issue
 

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I think by 'double simplicity wheel weights' he's talking about the oem cast 23# weights. I've also seen them listed as 25#, but have never weighed one. You can stack them with longer bolts, and I took it to mean 4 weights total, as you did. You'd be looking at 92-100#.

The rear stinger is 22#, and a doughnut on that would add another 25#.
 

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mrgreen nailed it. The high dollar simplicity weights are light but stacked 2 each side. Had I not got them as part of tractor deals I would have bought the 70lb ers from Jim's tractor and called it good.

I like the idea of narrow tires but the look is just not for me and they tend to sink a bit more in the damp spring I run 23x10.5 tru pwrs.
 

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The skinny's certainly don't float as well on soft turf or soil. My Wonderboy 700 has the original 6-12 Turfs, which I keep and like the original look of on that machine, but when I run that machine in the garden, it will sink in probably twice as deep as my 8.5's.

I agree, 6's would look goofy, but I am curious to see how well they bite in the slick stuff. I might zap them on with my new cordless impact I've been dying to use....
 
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