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:howdy: i have a Ariens GT18 model # 931033 and when i look for parts i find three sub models...
931033-000101
931033-004001
931033-004346

i have noticed there are some part differences between them here and there so i want to be sure i am ordering the right part. My tractor has power steering, no rear PTO,Kohler Magnum motor (the tag on the shielding is unreadable where the motor model number and serial are unless there is a alternative location), and serial # 001248 if that info helps narrow anything down.

:thanku: in advance for help with this
 

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:howdy: i have a Ariens GT18 model # 931033 and when i look for parts i find three sub models...
931033-000101
931033-004001
931033-004346

i have noticed there are some part differences between them here and there so i want to be sure i am ordering the right part. My tractor has power steering, no rear PTO,Kohler Magnum motor (the tag on the shielding is unreadable where the motor model number and serial are unless there is a alternative location), and serial # 001248 if that info helps narrow anything down.

:thanku: in advance for help with this

I talked to ariens a little about this last summer. there are several 931033 GT18's without power steering, they have sn below 1000, so that should rule out the first group.

I have seen GT18's with either direct drive or electric rear PTO's (1 has 1 switch on the dash, the other has 2) that is probably how to tell the second group from the third group, and I would expect that the direct drive preceded the electric PTO, so that should be the second group. this grouping is just a somewhat educated guess

all 931033 GT18's had Kohler Magnum Engines
 

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well i ask because my fresh purchase has front PTO clutch problems i was unaware of when purchased yesterday i removed the hood to work with the adjustment (threads were tight was concerned of getting so tight they twisted off the stud) and got it down to a tight .012" clearance and it worked much better but after some on and off it started slipping in use and not engaging again if you waited 30-60 seconds and tried again it would re-engage gonna be sure i watch the electrical make sure i don't have a voltage feed problem before buying anything but my initial diagnosis is the PTO clutch is wore out and the 931033-000101/931033-004001 use a different part number than the 931003-004346. see pictures to show how tight the adjustments are currently and one other thing i noticed the nuts are not even to set it at .012 in all three check holes
 

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I think the spec on your pto gap is 0.018, 0.012 would be fine as long as it doesn't rub.

one thing you can try is replacing the lock nuts, the ones on my old GT18 were bad, and would be out of adjustment after just an hour of use or so. I put 3 new all metal lock nuts on, and never had an issue again.

if you replace them and re-set the gap and still have a problem. you probably just need the coil.

I just looked at the ariens website, and there is only 1 pto for all 931033 GT18's


03060600 is for the gt 18 Diesel (30) or (931030)

03064500 is for the GT 18 Magnum 18, and K361 (19,33) (931030, and 931033)

03064600 is for the GT 20 (34) (931034)

the first number in () is in the note column on the ariens parts radar, the second number in () is the model number ariens is referencing. Their parts sheets all use this nomenclature, so that one drawing, and part catalog, can be used for multiple tractor models
 

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ill recheck the gap when i get home today but the stuff i found showed the 03064500 revised to 03064800 and the 931033-4346 uses 53114100. will probably remove the PTO clutch and see if i can help it by cleaning out excessive dust/oil etc and clean up the threads on adjustment bolts and ill try new nuts on reassembly
 

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I don't know where you are getting your part numbers, but it is flat out wrong.

03060600 is for the gt 18 Diesel (30) or (931030)

03064500 is for the GT 18 Magnum 18, and K361 (19,33) (931030, and 931033)

03064800 is for the GT 20 (34) (931034) *****corrected*****


03064800 is for the GT20 only, because the gt20 has a larger diameter crank then a GT 18. 1 1/4" vs 1 1/8"




if you need to look up parts, go directly to ariens, they will always have the newest, most accurate parts numbers

http://partsradar.arinet.com/scripts/EmpartISAPI.dll?MF&app=ariens&lang=EN&TF=Empartweb&loginID=ariensc&loginpwd=consumer


as for 03064500 having been superseded, that is possible, but it is not superseded by 03064800, physics don't allow it

part number 53114100 is for the GT12, GT14, GT16, GT17, and GT19 ONLY. I think they all have a 1" crankshaft
 

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:howdy: i have a Ariens GT18 model # 931033 and when i look for parts i find three sub models...
931033-000101
931033-004001
931033-004346

i have noticed there are some part differences between them here and there so i want to be sure i am ordering the right part. My tractor has power steering, no rear PTO,Kohler Magnum motor (the tag on the shielding is unreadable where the motor model number and serial are unless there is a alternative location), and serial # 001248 if that info helps narrow anything down.

:thanku: in advance for help with this
The serial number is the key. Your tractor falls into the first group as it is between 000101 and 004001.
As for parts, many may have a change to a new part number and they should work.
Just going from personal experience as I have ordered parts that the numbers changed to another and mine worked.


I talked to ariens a little about this last summer. there are several 931033 GT18's without power steering, they have sn below 1000, so that should rule out the first group.

I have seen GT18's with either direct drive or electric rear PTO's (1 has 1 switch on the dash, the other has 2) that is probably how to tell the second group from the third group, and I would expect that the direct drive preceded the electric PTO, so that should be the second group. this grouping is just a somewhat educated guess
Identifying tractors by PTOs they have and don't have is not very accurate as some were optional and may have been factory or dealer installed or later in life by an owner.
These are 18hp GT:
931015 - Kohler Single, Optional live PTO
931024 - Kohler Single, Optional electric PTO
931030 - Ruggerini Diesel, Standard electric PTO
931033 - Kohler Magnum, Optional electric PTO - I have seen 5 or 6 of this model with early to late serial numbers and they all had power steering.

I have looked at GTs that had the standard rear PTOs removed because they had no use for them, they broke or scavenged for parts. That being said, someone could have installed a live PTO into a GT that would have had the optional electric as well.

So the best way to arm yourself in the parts hunt is to get a copy of the service and owners manual.
The service manual has very good break down diagrams for the repairs. There is a parts manual that covers models 931004 through 931027 that is detailed as well and has the original part numbers in it. I have a 931019 GT17 and I find these invaluable.

Hope this helps,
Javelin395
 

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The serial number is the key. Your tractor falls into the first group as it is between 000101 and 004001.
As for parts, many may have a change to a new part number and they should work.
Just going from personal experience as I have ordered parts that the numbers changed to another and mine worked.




Identifying tractors by PTOs they have and don't have is not very accurate as some were optional and may have been factory or dealer installed or later in life by an owner.
These are 18hp GT:
931015 - Kohler Single, Optional live PTO
931024 - Kohler Single, Optional electric PTO
931030 - Ruggerini Diesel, Standard electric PTO
931033 - Kohler Magnum, Optional electric PTO - I have seen 5 or 6 of this model with early to late serial numbers and they all had power steering.

I have looked at GTs that had the standard rear PTOs removed because they had no use for them, they broke or scavenged for parts. That being said, someone could have installed a live PTO into a GT that would have had the optional electric as well.

So the best way to arm yourself in the parts hunt is to get a copy of the service and owners manual.
The service manual has very good break down diagrams for the repairs. There is a parts manual that covers models 931004 through 931027 that is detailed as well and has the original part numbers in it. I have a 931019 GT17 and I find these invaluable.

Hope this helps,
Javelin395

you make valid points about the PTO, I tried to express that that was a somewhat educated guess,

as for power steering I can say the rep I spoke with at Ariens said for PN931033 with a SN is below 1000, it did not come from the factory with power steering. They were more then explicit about this, and explained there is a gap in SN's and they made less then 1000 w/o power steering, but those with power steering all have SN's above 1000.

I tend to believe the person reading their own production records, but your free to believe what ever you want.

If you want more information, I suggest you call Ariens, because they were very helpful and had lots of details.

as far as the parts manuals, Ariens Apache is the newest most accurate version of the parts manual, but you can download any manual you want for free from Ariens.

I am now removing myself from this thread, I shared my limited knowledge, and the original poster can do what they want with it.
 

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as for power steering I can say the rep I spoke with at Ariens said for PN931033 with a SN is below 1000, it did not come from the factory with power steering. They were more then explicit about this, and explained there is a gap in SN's and they made less then 1000 w/o power steering, but those with power steering all have SN's above 1000.
I tend to believe the person reading their own production records, but your free to believe what ever you want.

If you want more information, I suggest you call Ariens, because they were very helpful and had lots of details.
I have contacted Ariens as I wanted to find the build date of my tractor and the dealer it went to. The gentleman replied that they don't have any records of the tractors shipped north of the boarder. I found that a little strange but I guess I'll have to believe it because the Ariens gentleman told me so.
I believe I remember posting - I have seen 5 or 6 of this model with early to late serial numbers and they all had power steering. Don't recall saying any were under serial number 001000. To me 001001 in serial numbers is low compared to 004346 and up.

as far as the parts manuals, Ariens Apache is the newest most accurate version of the parts manual, but you can download any manual you want for free from Ariens.
The Ariens Apache is a Web server application through which we can download owners, service and parts manuals. It is not a manual.
I have downloaded almost every manual for these tractors and they are all scanned from the original manuals and stored in PDF format. Excellent resource material for anyone working on these tractors and yes they are free but they are not updated in any way.

Cheers,
Javelin395
 

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:howdy: i have a Ariens GT18 model # 931033 and when i look for parts i find three sub models...
931033-000101
931033-004001
931033-004346

i have noticed there are some part differences between them here and there so i want to be sure i am ordering the right part. My tractor has power steering, no rear PTO,Kohler Magnum motor (the tag on the shielding is unreadable where the motor model number and serial are unless there is a alternative location), and serial # 001248 if that info helps narrow anything down.

:thanku: in advance for help with this
Your original part was 03064500. This part changes to 53114100 and is used by both Ariens and Gravely and should retail at $467.25 according to the Ariens 2014 price book.

You could enquire at Xtreme Mower Clutches and see if they have something a little more affordable.
Found them on eBay and they seem to have a good selection of clutches and half the price of the Ariens.

PM me and I'll send you the specifications of the clutch.

Cheers,
Javelin395
 

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