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Well there hasn’t been much snow this year so I decided to start working on something that I’ve been thinking and talking about for over a year. Over the last couple of weeks I’ve been tinkering with bits of the build by cutting out the different pieces.

I tried to design the frame so that the very front of it should only stick out 1” past the front edge of my 45 loader custom JDQA adaptation. For reference: --> Converting 45 Loader to JQDA - Build

My thinking is the closer the forks are to the 45 loader the more lift it can do. It may be only a couple of inches closer but with the limited lift of the 45 loader any mechanical/physical advantage is a definite plus.

The design basically has the forks slide along a bar at the top of the frame. I hope to keep things fairly light as the frame itself should weigh between 55 and 60 lbs with the forks around 40 lbs. each. I figure that the 45 loader can maybe lift 700 to 750 lbs max (shimmed) so I didn’t design it to handle 2000 to 3000 lbs.

Here are the pieces of the frame squared up and clamped prior to tack welding.

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The forks will be “clamped” to prevent them from sliding along the bar and each clamp has a 1 ¼” slot in it to allow fine-tuning of the distances between the forks.

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First outer-side welded. Note bottom of the fork frame is closest to you

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Frame flipped and ready to weld the other outer-side.

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Mock-up of what it will basically look like. The forks themselves are just sitting there and have not been welded yet.

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Next will be to finish welding the base frame and then make up the brackets for the JDQA.

Roger
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Looks good Roger. I am falling way behind in my quick attach plans and fork build. Having young children has negatively affected my free time. Glad to see you are making the most out of your 45 loader.
Looks good Roger!

How are you building your forks? I know even though my forks are not quick attach I cannot imagine my life without them. Some of the items I have been able to move with my forks has added years to my back and a lot less sweat and aggravation.

I had to go back and find the picture below.... I bet you will be shocked with the forks close to the tractor how much they can lift! That is about 700 lbs worth of RF up there and I had power to spare! (I just wasn't going to take something that heavier any higher than that! :ROF)

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Roger,
Top-shelf fabrication!

Looking forward to the end result.




Andreas
Well there hasn’t been much snow this year so I decided to start working on something that I’ve been thinking and talking about for over a year. Over the last couple of weeks I’ve been tinkering with bits of the build by cutting out the different pieces.

I tried to design the frame so that the very front of it should only stick out 1” past the front edge of my 45 loader custom JDQA adaptation. For reference: --> Converting 45 Loader to JQDA - Build

My thinking is the closer the forks are to the 45 loader the more lift it can do. It may be only a couple of inches closer but with the limited lift of the 45 loader any mechanical/physical advantage is a definite plus.

The design basically has the forks slide along a bar at the top of the frame. I hope to keep things fairly light as the frame itself should weigh between 55 and 60 lbs with the forks around 40 lbs. each. I figure that the 45 loader can maybe lift 700 to 750 lbs max (shimmed) so I didn’t design it to handle 2000 to 3000 lbs.

Here are the pieces of the frame squared up and clamped prior to tack welding.

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The forks will be “clamped” to prevent them from sliding along the bar and each clamp has a 1 ¼” slot in it to allow fine-tuning of the distances between the forks.

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First outer-side welded. Note bottom of the fork frame is closest to you

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Frame flipped and ready to weld the other outer-side.

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Mock-up of what it will basically look like. The forks themselves are just sitting there and have not been welded yet.

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Next will be to finish welding the base frame and then make up the brackets for the JDQA.

Roger
Looks good Roger!

How are you building your forks? I know even though my forks are not quick attach I cannot imagine my life without them. Some of the items I have been able to move with my forks has added years to my back and a lot less sweat and aggravation.

I had to go back and find the picture below.... I bet you will be shocked with the forks close to the tractor how much they can lift! That is about 700 lbs worth of RF up there and I had power to spare! (I just wasn't going to take something that heavier any higher than that! :ROF)

I could certainly use a loader and a set of forks for one of my machines to help with my Farmall 130 restoration but then again I do have a overhead chain hoist on a track but it would still be sweet for moving heavy items outside to be painted.
Looks good Roger. I am falling way behind in my quick attach plans and fork build. Having young children has negatively affected my free time. Glad to see you are making the most out of your 45 loader.
badgerland01,

Thanks! I know all about having young children. They definitely demand your time and rightly so! Hopefully you will find some time to squeeze in a project or two.

Roger

Looks good Roger!

How are you building your forks? I know even though my forks are not quick attach I cannot imagine my life without them. Some of the items I have been able to move with my forks has added years to my back and a lot less sweat and aggravation.

I had to go back and find the picture below.... I bet you will be shocked with the forks close to the tractor how much they can lift! That is about 700 lbs worth of RF up there and I had power to spare! (I just wasn't going to take something that heavier any higher than that! :ROF)

Kyle,

Ever since you and Larry posted pictures of your forks, I've been wanting to make a set. I do remember seeing the above picture before and actually used the weight your RF as basis for the lift capacity of the 45 loader and what I wanted/needed in my design.

Roger

Roger,
Top-shelf fabrication!

Looking forward to the end result.

Andreas
Andreas,

Thanks and I hope to have it completed in a couple of weeks.

Roger

I could certainly use a loader and a set of forks for one of my machines to help with my Farmall 130 restoration but then again I do have a overhead chain hoist on a track but it would still be sweet for moving heavy items outside to be painted.
Deere 332,

I find myself using my loader more and more and as Kyle has said above a set of forks only adds to the benefit of it. Definitely a back saver.

Roger
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Yeah I'm either gonna buy a 44 loader or imgoing to build one myself I know on one hand the 44 loader is a proven design but on the other hand they're expensive and a loader built from a set of plans is certainly economical compared to a 44 loader. The main ting I'm concerned about is taking the loader off and on I don't mind if it takes a couple hours I juse want to make sure I can get it off by myself which I should be able too I mean I'm not a lttle guy I'm 6'3" around 175lbs plus I have the overhead hoist which would help a lot getting it off and on. The other thing is finding one and being able to afford it. But if I got one I would certainly build a set of forks for it.
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Finished up welding the base frame and I've very pleased with the welds.

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Kyle asked how I am building my forks so here is how. I'm using 3" x 1 1/2" by 3/16" wall rectangular tube for the forks. Since the angle joint weld between the horizontal and vertical pieces will be the weakest point I thought that I should strengthen it somehow. I decided to try and strengthen the joint from the inside of the tube.

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I made up three pieces per fork and they will be jammed inside. Two of the pieces are from 1" square tube and the middle piece is from 1" x 5/8" flat bar. My thinking is that they would work and act something like a "helper leaf spring" but internally. At least that's my thinking anyways.

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In the above picture the strengthening bars are only pushed partly in as I am not ready to weld them yet.

Roger
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Looking good Roger!
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Nice job so far Roger. I was wondering if you ever got a start on them. Look forward to seeing them complete. I wish mine was JDQA. I do like the fact I can use my forks on the rear or the front and also reverse them like I did to set my new compressor this past fall. The pick with them on the 3PH is a little over 800 lbs. You can see the rear tires aren't liking it so much. I was able to drive the load up on my trailer and unload it at it's destination.
They are a handy attachment for sure. I have got way more use out of mine than I thought I would.

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Looks fabulous, Roger! That is what inspiration looks like...
Looks good Roger!

How are you building your forks? I know even though my forks are not quick attach I cannot imagine my life without them. Some of the items I have been able to move with my forks has added years to my back and a lot less sweat and aggravation.

I had to go back and find the picture below.... I bet you will be shocked with the forks close to the tractor how much they can lift! That is about 700 lbs worth of RF up there and I had power to spare! (I just wasn't going to take something that heavier any higher than that! :ROF)

Love that pic!:fing32:

Roger, I'm like you in that I've been wanting a set of forks like that as long as I've had my loader. Problem is that I lack the skills to build them!:fing20:

Someday...
Looking good Roger!
Deere 332,

Thanks!

Roger

Nice job so far Roger. I was wondering if you ever got a start on them. Look forward to seeing them complete. I wish mine was JDQA. I do like the fact I can use my forks on the rear or the front and also reverse them like I did to set my new compressor this past fall. The pick with them on the 3PH is a little over 800 lbs. You can see the rear tires aren't liking it so much. I was able to drive the load up on my trailer and unload it at it's destination.
They are a handy attachment for sure. I have got way more use out of mine than I thought I would.
Larry,

I hope get a lot of use out of my forks too. It is nice to know that fabricated forks can handle 800 lbs. They even work when they are flipped upside down! Your design definitely has an advantage when they can do that.

Have you looked at making your bucket and fork frame into a JDQA setup? It's not that hard. All you need is a grinder with a cutoff wheel to cut the brackets off your fork frame and weld on some custom made pieces for the JDQA. I know, easier said than done.

Roger

Looks fabulous, Roger! That is what inspiration looks like...
Jay,

Thanks and so is a set of forks in the works for your loader in the near future?

Roger

Love that pic!:fing32:

Roger, I'm like you in that I've been wanting a set of forks like that as long as I've had my loader. Problem is that I lack the skills to build them!:fing20:

Someday...
Hostaman,

Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and just start on it and learn as you go to get what you want. That is what I did when I started my H5 project. I knew diddly squat about hydraulics and how everything functioned before that. Did a lot of reading I must say.

Roger
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Deere 332,

Thanks!

Roger



Larry,

I hope get a lot of use out of my forks too. It is nice to know that fabricated forks can handle 800 lbs. They even work when they are flipped upside down! Your design definitely has an advantage when they can do that.

Have you looked at making your bucket and fork frame into a JDQA setup? It's not that hard. All you need is a grinder with a cutoff wheel to cut the brackets off your fork frame and weld on some custom made pieces for the JDQA. I know, easier said than done.
I have thought a lot about doing the JDQA. I don't have a heated shop to work in during the winter months. Sure would make life easier on an old guy.
Thanks and so is a set of forks in the works for your loader in the near future?
Roger-it is in the queue. I wish for a source of cheap pre-bent smallish forks-say 3" by 1" by 42" or so. Next up on my bench is a front hoe. Jay
Love that pic!:fing32:

Roger, I'm like you in that I've been wanting a set of forks like that as long as I've had my loader. Problem is that I lack the skills to build them!:fing20:

Someday...
Thanks, and I am just going to echo Roger's comment.... sometimes you just gotta do it.

In June of 2012 I could sum up my knowledge about John Deere garden tractors and their systems on a 3x5 index card.... I knew they were green and how to do some of the maintenance.... i.e. change the oil and maybe a few belts.... Fast forward almost 5 years.... uhhhh lets just say Deere's and mechanical objects have pretty well dominated my life aside from work. Learned about hydraulics, how to rebuild an engine, how engines work, how pumps works, and given Mrs. Beef a lot of grey hairs!!!! :ROF
Thanks, and I am just going to echo Roger's comment.... sometimes you just gotta do it.

In June of 2012 I could sum up my knowledge about John Deere garden tractors and their systems on a 3x5 index card.... I knew they were green and how to do some of the maintenance.... i.e. change the oil and maybe a few belts.... Fast forward almost 5 years.... uhhhh lets just say Deere's and mechanical objects have pretty well dominated my life aside from work. Learned about hydraulics, how to rebuild an engine, how engines work, how pumps works, and given Mrs. Beef a lot of grey hairs!!!! :ROF
Wow the exact same thing happened to me at the exact same time man these things are a serious addiction I feel bad for you though with that roundfenderitus that's the worst stage of the Deere addiction and its incurable.
In June of 2012 I could sum up my knowledge about John Deere garden tractors and their systems on a 3x5 index card.... I knew they were green and how to do some of the maintenance.... i.e. change the oil and maybe a few belts.... Fast forward almost 5 years.... uhhhh lets just say Deere's and mechanical objects have pretty well dominated my life aside from work. Learned about hydraulics, how to rebuild an engine, how engines work, how pumps works, and given Mrs. Beef a lot of grey hairs!!!! :ROF
Kyle, I came to MTF a few months after you while researching what I wanted to buy in a new Deere GT. I have had Deere GT's since the early 70's but they were just something to mow and push snow. Even though I did my own maintenance I didn't have any interest beyond that. After discovering MTF I saw a whole different side of garden tractors.

You Kyle are the reason for me getting a 110 RF and restoring it. Not to mention you helped me along the way. It's been a fun ride and I probably learn more form these forums than I do working on something of my own. Love these build threads and you Roger keep amazing us and keep us coming back to see what you are doing next.
Kyle, I came to MTF a few months after you while researching what I wanted to buy in a new Deere GT. I have had Deere GT's since the early 70's but they were just something to mow and push snow. Even though I did my own maintenance I didn't have any interest beyond that. After discovering MTF I saw a whole different side of garden tractors.

You Kyle are the reason for me getting a 110 RF and restoring it. Not to mention you helped me along the way. It's been a fun ride and I probably learn more form these forums than I do working on something of my own. Love these build threads and you Roger keep amazing us and keep us coming back to see what you are doing next.
Ditto back when I was just a lurker 4-5 years ago you guys convinced me that needed something more than my 165 to do garden work and thats what started the role process to where I am today so thanks for that guys I really appreciate it!
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I have thought a lot about doing the JDQA. I don't have a heated shop to work in during the winter months. Sure would make life easier on an old guy.
Larry,

I hear you about not wanting to work in an unheated shop/garage in the winter. My garage where my welder is, normally isn't heated. I do have the ability to plug in a heater but the heater and welder use the same receptacle. It either the welder or the heater.

Anyways, today since it was above freezing, I heated the garage a bit before continuing to weld on the fork frame.

I was able to get the JDQA mounts tacked on the frame, test fitted and then fully welded. I still have to fabricate and weld the pins in.

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The cutouts at the ends of the frame are there to clear the hydraulic cylinders and loader arms when fully retracted/extended.

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Tomorrow I hope to get the forks welded up.

Roger
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