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I was just at a local JD dealership and brought home some of the brochures.

One model I have been looking at is the 3x20 series...a bit pricey but the size I prefer.

I now notice the 3005 and the 30xx models...MUCH less for what appears to be many/most? of the benefits of the 3x20 models but for a fraction of the price...list of 3005 is just over 50% of 3320?

My guess is I am missing something (I always do)...what is the difference? Is the 3005 etc built on a smaller frame?...or why so much lower price with so little discussion of these models?

I look forward to finding out why I still want a 3720 :)

Thanks...Tom
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picframer
Tom R said:
I was just at a local JD dealership and brought home some of the brochures.

One model I have been looking at is the 3x20 series...a bit pricey but the size I prefer.

I now notice the 3005 and the 30xx models...MUCH less for what appears to be many/most? of the benefits of the 3x20 models but for a fraction of the price...list of 3005 is just over 50% of 3320?

My guess is I am missing something (I always do)...what is the difference? Is the 3005 etc built on a smaller frame?...or why so much lower price with so little discussion of these models?

I look forward to finding out why I still want a 3720 :)

Thanks...Tom
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From what I know of the starting models in the series they are basic utility units or so the dealer explained, my first was a 3320 then a 3520 and finally a 3720, I bought the 3720 based on advise from the dealer and the service manager, we had/have a project requiring a lot of H.P., very large bucket and pulling a dump trailer, all I know is as with all the tractors I told the dealer to make sure it was loaded.

I haven't seen a 3005, my dealer starts at the 3320 for whatever reason.
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picframer said:
I haven't seen a 3005, my dealer starts at the 3320 for whatever reason.
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That is how the two JD dealers I have spoken to presented it also...3320 is base...then the 3520 and up to the 3720.

The 3005 has a base MSRP just over $10K?

Maybe it is like the 2305 which I believe is quite a bit smaller frame than the 2320, 2520 and 2720.

I need to go back and look at the 3005 and the other two 30xx models to see if the frame size is quite a bit smaller than the 3320 and up series?

Maybe there is a place for the 3005, etc as a similar frame/strength but with less "features"?

Thanks...Tom R

P.S. On Edit...I see the shipping weight is nearly 1000$ less for a 3005 than a 3320...must be a significant frame difference like the 2305?
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The 3005 and 3038 models are 'base' tractors. Geared trannies, non-removable FELs (well, not easily removed) the mid-pto is a extra $$ option, the flow rates on the aux hydraulics are lower, the lift capacity of the 3 point is laughable, and to top it off there might not be a cup holder.
On the plus side, the loader lift capacity has the 300 series loader beat.

3005: 27 hp I think, 24 at the shaft.
2400 max psi on the hydraulics.
Flow rate is around 5.5-6 GPM.
850 (?) lbs lift on the 3 point.

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picframer said:
I haven't seen a 3005, my dealer starts at the 3320 for whatever reason.
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If I was your salesman, Andy, I'd hide the cheap stuff if I saw you coming also. :fing32:
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Is the 3005 the replacement for the 3032E?
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Cat385B
The 3005 replaced the 790.
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Cat385B said:
If I was your salesman, Andy, I'd hide the cheap stuff if I saw you coming also. :fing32:
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And you would probably get the sale, nothing upsets me more that a product that just gets me by, the guys know when I ask for something to sell me more than I need:)

I have never looked at the specs of the 3005, based on what you posted it would not meet our needs, I suspect this is why my dealer does not have them on the lot, in the series of 33xx, just based on what I have, I see the 3320 as the bas unit as it doesn't have the features of the other two however it still does far more than I expect.

We have a 790 I bought used some time ago as it was mint and still is, it's our grunt tractor:) It doesn't really have a purpose in our lineup as it's not Hydro and most of our work reauires loader work so....It's a PITA
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picframer said:
And you would probably get the sale, nothing upsets me more that a product that just gets me by, the guys know when I ask for something to sell me more than I need:)

I have never looked at the specs of the 3005, based on what you posted it would not meet our needs, I suspect this is why my dealer does not have them on the lot, in the series of 33xx, just based on what I have, I see the 3320 as the bas unit as it doesn't have the features of the other two however it still does far more than I expect.

We have a 790 I bought used some time ago as it was mint and still is, it's our grunt tractor:) It doesn't really have a purpose in our lineup as it's not Hydro and most of our work reauires loader work so....It's a PITA
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We did some loader work at our church and I brought my 2210 and a friend brought his 790. Immediately, it was clear the hydro/loader combo was far more productive than the gear/loader combination. :)
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Cat385B said:
The 3005 and 3038 models are 'base' tractors. Geared trannies, non-removable FELs (well, not easily removed) the mid-pto is a extra $$ option, the flow rates on the aux hydraulics are lower, the lift capacity of the 3 point is laughable, and to top it off there might not be a cup holder.
On the plus side, the loader lift capacity has the 300 series loader beat.

3005: 27 hp I think, 24 at the shaft.
2400 max psi on the hydraulics.
Flow rate is around 5.5-6 GPM.
850 (?) lbs lift on the 3 point.
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The 3005 has a standard collar shift 8F/2R gear transmission and the available 300 loader can be removed when needed. The 3032e & 38e both have standard 2 speed hydrostatic transmissions and the only loader available is the fixed 305 loader. The two E tractors also have higher rated hydraulics and lift capacities for the loader.

As other have said, they are your basic, "no frills, all business" tractor. I test drove a 3038e last year after they came out and I was pretty impressed by them. The only thing that was kind of a hindrance was the fact that the 305 loader is fixed. The nicest thing about having a removable loader IMO is for ease of service. But, that said, it was still a very nice tractor and I would have a hard time passing over it if I had to purchase again. You get a lot of bang for the buck with those models.
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We did some loader work at our church and I brought my 2210 and a friend brought his 790. Immediately, it was clear the hydro/loader combo was far more productive than the gear/loader combination. :)
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Agreed 100%, I see the 790 as a farm type tractor, hobby farm perhaps, sit on it and dig potatoes, run a bailer etc but when it comes to loader work, a hydro blows the stick away....This was an impulse purchase, I couldn't believe the condition, bought it within a fe mon of seeing it, never even crossed my mind to take it to a site for a day, had I done this, well I wouldn't own it.
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FWIW the 3038e has a cup holder. I did a $/hp analysis for kicks and found that it had the lowest cost per HP in the 30XX and 40XX series.
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Tom R said:
I was just at a local JD dealership and brought home some of the brochures.

One model I have been looking at is the 3x20 series...a bit pricey but the size I prefer.

I now notice the 3005 and the 30xx models...MUCH less for what appears to be many/most? of the benefits of the 3x20 models but for a fraction of the price...list of 3005 is just over 50% of 3320?

My guess is I am missing something (I always do)...what is the difference? Is the 3005 etc built on a smaller frame?...or why so much lower price with so little discussion of these models?

I look forward to finding out why I still want a 3720 :)

Thanks...Tom
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Just a couple of reasons to get a 20 vs an 05...;)


3320
Pump Rated Output, gpm (L/min.) 13.9 (52.5)

Steering 5.3 (20.0)
Implement 8.6 (32.5)
Pump Type Dual gear

Maximum Operating Pressure (PSI) 2500

Draft Control Type Position control

Remote Control Valves Available 5

3-Point Hitch
Type Category 1

Lift Capacity (24-in. behind link arms), lb. (kg) 2200 (999)

Lift Capacity @ lift link ends, lb. (kg) 2530 (1149)

3005
Pump Rated Output, gpm (L/min.) 9.4 (36.4)

Steering 4.2 (15.9)

Implement 5.4 (20.5)

Pump Type Single gear (Manual steering models); Dual gear (Power steering models)

Maximum Operating Pressure (PSI) 2050
Draft Control Type Position control

Remote Control Valves Available 2
3-Point Hitch
Type Category I

Lift Capacity (24-in. behind link arms), lb. (kg) 815 (370)

Lift Capacity @ lift link ends, lb. (kg) ---
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ppdiaper
The 3x20 tractors have the most/best options, can run the most atttachments, and have the highest price tag.

I recently bought a 3038E for the following reasons:
I can't afford a 3520
FEL primary use and don't want to remove it.
I want hydrostat
I only need a rear PTO
I don't need to operate the PTO when I'm not on the seat.
I don't want to run a MMM
I don't need remote hydraulics
I can't afford a lot of attachments anyway
I move a lot of dirt around with the 305 loader and a box blade.
I don't have an MMM, but a rear finish mower will be fine for my open unobstructed field.
I have a 318 garden tractor which is for most mowing needs.

I believe the 3005 is similar in price if you prefer gear tranny, but be aware the 3005 does not use the same 305 loader that the 3038E uses.

In practical use, I found it to suit my needs well. After adding a weight box full of concrete with an old small-block chevy parked on top for weight out back, it realy woke the tractor up. I can scoop-up big full buckets of damp sandy dirt with no problem. Lack of individual rear brakes is the only feature I miss, but it does the job I bought it for so I'm happy, and my back is happy, and my drink is happy in the cupholder - one thing I need on the 318!:trink39:
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