[yamadoo]

I have been contemplating adding to the 'needed' accessories for the 420's. Does any one know the differences in size, functions and spec's for these two JD brooms.

I see several available on Craigs list here in MN and wonder which is the better tool.

Thanks in advance

Yamadoo

 

[yamadoo]

Anyone with experience with these brooms??

Good bad or no different?

Yamadoo aka Mark

 

[XSKIER]

I have owned a 51 and now own a 52. I haven't used either of them due to not having a front PTO kit. Although, I have had a PTO kit on back order for the last two weeks, should be coming soon. In my opinion, the worm drive on the 51 seems kind of cheesy to me. Also, the 51 seems to run a smaller diameter brush, lending itself to turning material back over itself. I have never been up close to 46, but they seem pretty heavy duty. If you're still looking for a broom when I get my PTO kit, and there's not too much snow, I'll give a review.

 

[NEWT92]

246 are designed for the front mount Deeres.. F910-F1154s

51 and 52 are for the garden tractors.

 

[10ford]

The 51 broom morphed to the 52 broom. The 51 and 52 brooms use a worm gear to drive the brushes. The 246, 26, and 60 Heavy Duty use a bevel drive gearcase and are more "commercial" rated.The 246 went to the model 26, then to the 60 Heavy Duty broom. 246 brooms could also fit the 655-955 compact tractors as well as the 420 and 430 tractors. 51 brooms were introduced with the 425-455 tractors. In 2001 with the X series, the 52 broom was introduced. All these brooms were are built by Sweepster. I have the 60 Heavy Duty and it's really too big for a garden tractor. It weighs over 400 pounds!

 

[yamadoo]

Thanks guys that really helps. Yamadoo

 

[jeeperv6]

Thanks guys that really helps. Yamadoo

Another thing to keep in mind with the smaller Deere brooms is the cost of wafers. Do a check on the JD parts site for the replacement cost. Be prepared to give up your first born.

On the 51 you need 4.5 x 18 wafers (including the two special coned wafers for the gear box). The wafers are available in either poly or wire or combo. The downside is they're only sold in a complete set. So if you chew up the end wafer (which is normally the case on any broom) you can't just swap out the chewed up wafers, you have to replace the whole set.

The 246's use a more common 8 x 26 wafer if I recall correctly. 8 x 26 are widely used on skid steer brooms. And are available in what ever quantity you need.

The good new is there is an aftermarket source for the JD 51 brooms. I've sold quite a few sets to municipalities that have them. If you want more info, just email me and I'll send you the details.

 

[Dr. X-485]

Can someone help here? I have a x485 and am looking for a sweeper/broom. Will the 51 fit on my tractor? I assume the 52 is designed for it but will either work? How do I pick? Jeeperv6 suggest replacement parts may be expensive on both 51 and 52?

also, I see used 51s from time to time but they usually have 50% or more broom bristle wear. I assume a new broom is very pricey as well?

 

[X748SE]

Can someone help here? I have a x485 and am looking for a sweeper/broom. Will the 51 fit on my tractor? I assume the 52 is designed for it but will either work? How do I pick? Jeeperv6 suggest replacement parts may be expensive on both 51 and 52?

also, I see used 51s from time to time but they usually have 50% or more broom bristle wear. I assume a new broom is very pricey as well?

Ariens EZR,

I have a 51 broom and it fits and works fine on my tractor, so it definitely will work on your tractor.

Roger

 

[Dr. X-485]

Thanks rlowe. I'm curious. Do you like the 51? Would the 52 be better? Any idea why the 1" difference? Have you used it to do clearing of a thin layer of snow on a ice rink for skating (pond?)

 

[XSKIER]

Not a 51 or 52, but I really like my 72 sweepster.

Although the 52 I had for a little while was nice.

 

[Dr. X-485]

Xskier, I see you also hail from Michigan. Whoever gets to skate on that pond in th epicture you posed are one lucky crew of people! That must be a mile long skating rink!! I can see why you need a big rotary broom to clear it. Can it scrub it cleaner than in that picture you attached or is it a fact of life that it is going to leave some snow behind on the ice? I guess I envisioned cleaning our tiny little pond down to the bare ice...

 

[XSKIER]

The resolution is poor. That is our 60 x 660 snowmobike drag race track after a couple of thaw freezes, and about 500 holeshots. Ice skates can't hurt ice like we can.

https://youtu.be/o5zwJRGiVbQ

 

[mrbeef]

Thanks rlowe. I'm curious. Do you like the 51? Would the 52 be better? Any idea why the 1" difference? Have you used it to do clearing of a thin layer of snow on a ice rink for skating (pond?)

Not a 51 or 52.... this is my first winter of the 60 HD on snow removal. So far I love it for light snow falls, manual states 6 inches or less should be fine for the broom.

 

[X748SE]

Thanks rlowe. I'm curious. Do you like the 51? Would the 52 be better? Any idea why the 1" difference? Have you used it to do clearing of a thin layer of snow on a ice rink for skating (pond?)

Ariens EZR ,

I was able to get my used 51 broom quite cheap thus the reason I have it over the 52 broom.

I think that the main difference between the two is as follows:

The 51 has the driveshaft directly feeding a gear box that is in the center of the brushes thus there is a bit of gap in the brushes. If you have the broom pointed straight ahead then there will be a little "windrow" of material that will not be swept. This is not a problem when the 51 broom is angled.

The 52 also has the driveshaft directly feeding a gear box but the gearbox in turn feeds a sprocket/chain/sprocket linkage to the center of the brushes so the gap in the middle is minimized.

I've used my 51 broom to sweep up gravel, wood chips and grass and it works quite well. I haven't tried it out on snow yet (hopefully this winter I will) but as per Mr. Beef's video above, brooms work quite well clearing snow too.

The only thing the I might be concerned with when using a broom to clear snow off of ice for skating is not to be too aggressive with the brushes as they may leave bristle/brush marks in the ice. Then you wouldn't have a nice surface for skating. Don't know for sure but it could be a possibility. :dunno:

Roger

 

[steddy]

The only thing the I might be concerned with when using a broom to clear snow off of ice for skating is not to be too aggressive with the brushes as they may leave bristle/brush marks in the ice. Then you wouldn't have a nice surface for skating. Don't know for sure but it could be a possibility. :dunno:

Roger

Might help, if the ice is torn up real bad. At least it may give a consistent surface, albeit not smooth.

 

[10ford]

I read on another post about storing the massive 60" HD broom. I found that turning it on its side works and it only takes up as much space as a large water heater.

Alan