[tophat1939]

You guys are all amazing and I can't say thanks enough for your advise, information and enthusiasm! I'm hooked now, I went looking for a cheap tractor to grade my roads and came back with a new obssession!

In surfing the net and from the information you gentlemen have provided, it looks like the cables are hard to come by. I looked at the conversion kits which seem fair, however I am going to speak with some friends of mine who, if given enough time and money could build a space shuttle if they wanted. They rebuild/restore WW2 vehicles so fabricating parts is something they are very familiar with.

I'm pretty sure they could make a replacement cable kit for me and install it, These guys rebuild Maybach tank motors etc. I am now wondering if there might be a market for a replacement cable kit (maybe with stainless cable?) Maybe I'll have them build a few...hmmmmm

 

[thenubsterman]

tophat, I have my 9n apart and i have a sherman trans in mine, here is a picture for you. Just for more visuals.

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/onehandman/1316038068.jpg

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/onehandman/1314553084.jpg

showing you side lever, instead of cable driven

hope this helps a little:thThumbsU:thThumbsU

 

[tophat1939]

tophat, I have my 9n apart and i have a sherman trans in mine, here is a picture for you. Just for more visuals.

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/onehandman/1316038068.jpg

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/onehandman/1314553084.jpg

showing you side lever, instead of cable driven

hope this helps a little:thThumbsU:thThumbsU

Thanks it does, however I have another question...and forgive me if the Q is a dumb one..Are there two transmissions in tandem and currently mine is only operating with one or is my tractor using the sherman just not the hi/low features?

 

[Caryc]

Here's a little more info on this site.

http://www.oldfordtractors.com/sherman.htm

 

[Kirk-NJ]

Maybe something like this may work.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HUU-5000024/?rtype=10

Kirk

 

[tophat1939]

Maybe something like this may work.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HUU-5000024/?rtype=10

Kirk

Awesome, That'll make it easier, although I had a brief daydream of funding my tractors restoration via repro cable sales...I am going to see if I can shine a bright flashlight down the hole and see if there is a flash of red or grey. paint on the Sherman..

 

[Caryc]

Ok, here is something I was wondering about since looking at the pictures here. I take it that the Sherman transmission is a separate transmission that fits between the regular transmission and the flywheel.

So is this a sealed unit as far as lubrication? No place to change or add oil?

 

[thenubsterman]

Yes 2 transmissions the Sherman is like a 2 speed. But it raises or lowers all of the tractors original Gears. The Sherman is a sealed unit.

Another way to look at it the the Sherman trans changes input speed into the tractors transmission

 

[tophat1939]

Yes 2 transmissions the Sherman is like a 2 speed. But it raises or lowers all of the tractors original Gears. The Sherman is a sealed unit.

Another way to look at it the the Sherman trans changes input speed into the tractors transmission

Thanks, I have learned so much since joining this forum.

 

[JohnW]

Wasn't Red Rock making replacement cables a few years ago? If not most any truck shop that works on dump bodies should be able to make one up to suit.

 

[Kirk-NJ]

Sherman trans is lubbed from the main trans . There 's an oil slingger on the input shaft that goes into the trans.

Kirk

 

[slip knot]

Wasn't Red Rock making replacement cables a few years ago? If not most any truck shop that works on dump bodies should be able to make one up to suit.

Yeah, It looks like a manual PTO cable to me. Before everything went electronic we used to buy these all the time. Engaging a PTO shouldn't be much different than shifting a Sherman tranny, simple push/pull system.

 

[thenubsterman]

Kirk,

Thanks for correcting me about the sherman trans, i assumed it was filled didn't see how it could get lube Thanks :thanku:

 

[tophat1939]

Wasn't Red Rock making replacement cables a few years ago? If not most any truck shop that works on dump bodies should be able to make one up to suit.

Thanks much, I'll check it out.

 

[tophat1939]

Your tractor is a Mid '44 and up to a '47. oval tube style radius rods didn't come out until the middle of 1944. Earliest tube style I've seen was built april 25, 1944.
It doesn't matter if your serial # sez 9N.
193(9)/41= 9n
194(2)/47=2n
194(8)/52=8n
Production of the next years model started about 3 months of the year before. It the case of the switch from 2n to 8n it was about 5 months. Because they were built in the previous year some poeple think they have an early model.

Kirk

The guy who sold it to me listed it as a 1942, and because of my 9N ignorance I took him for his word, but I see what you mean about the radius rods, which now begs the question what exactly do I have. I don't think the guy intentionally mislead me, he struck me as an honest fellow, I guess he only repeated what he had been told. The serial number on the engine block reads ?N 040 3180 the first number has been partially scraped off. It could be a 9. The tractor is 3 speed, has front mounted distributor. I searched for casting numbers but only came up with another confusing number on the bottom of the oil pan 9N6675. Maybe I have a Frankin'-tractor carried out of the factory in someones lunch box 1 piece at a time. Works great though, I graded the road leading to the house and cleared an acre of brush where I want to grow some grapes today..love the thing! :rauch10:

 

[thenubsterman]

i really worry if its a 9 or 2n they are the same tractor lol

 

[thenubsterman]

wouldnt worry sorry lol

 

[tophat1939]

wouldnt worry sorry lol

Yeah, no worries, I just enjoy learning about things as much as I do using/collecting them. It does seem to be narrowed down to 1944-1947, but the serial number is confusing to me as after the N it starts with a 0 and appears to be a number that doesn't seem to jive with 44-47. I'm learning on-the-fly.

 

[thenubsterman]

oh totally understand have you tried to clean the area where the serial number is with like some sand paper,wire brush? make it easier to see.

 

[Kirk-NJ]

The guy who sold it to me listed it as a 1942, and because of my 9N ignorance I took him for his word, but I see what you mean about the radius rods, which now begs the question what exactly do I have. I don't think the guy intentionally mislead me, he struck me as an honest fellow, I guess he only repeated what he had been told. The serial number on the engine block reads ?N 040 3180 the first number has been partially scraped off. It could be a 9. The tractor is 3 speed, has front mounted distributor. I searched for casting numbers but only came up with another confusing number on the bottom of the oil pan 9N6675. Maybe I have a Frankin'-tractor carried out of the factory in someones lunch box 1 piece at a time. Works great though, I graded the road leading to the house and cleared an acre of brush where I want to grow some grapes today..love the thing! :rauch10:

It could be a 9. OR could it be a B??? If it is a B then BNO 40 3180 would be a Moto Tug engine. it could have been a replacement for your old engine. The 40 would have made it a daul rear wheel. They also made single rear wheel ones.
Check on your engine near the starter. There should be a date code tag. Also you can check on your hdraulic pump under the tractor and on the rear axle trumpets for date codes.

Kirk