[396 big block]

There is a noticeable difference in the width between the two tractors.



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[Diesel332]

Since the H1 is a '72, it will have a heavier and wider axle then the 1970.

 

[UrbanTractor]

Are you referring to the diameter of the axle spindles? Or something else?

In 1972, the diameter of the front axle spindles on the 140 (120 had already been discontinued) was increased to 1".

 

[396 big block]

Since the H1 is a '72, it will have a heavier and wider axle then the 1970.

Thanks for the info.:thThumbsU

Are you referring to the diameter of the axle spindles? Or something else?

In 1972, the diameter of the front axle spindles on the 140 (120 had already been discontinued) was increased to 1".

The width between the wheels..

 

[UrbanTractor]

Thanks for the info.:thThumbsU



The width between the wheels..

???? Can't quite see that from the photo. But if so, I might suspect that the 120 has had its axle replaced by a 110/112 axle? I have never seen any mention of a narrower front track on the 120.

 

[396 big block]

???? Can't quite see that from the photo. But if so, I might suspect that the 120 has had its axle replaced by a 110/112 axle? I have never seen any mention of a narrower front track on the 120.

So you're saying I have a Frankenstein tractor?

 

[Leinie]

Did you actually take a tape and measure the track width ?

From the pictures it looks like the one on the right has a longer axle casting, but the tire is also much closer the end of it.
The one on the left seems to have the shorter axle casting but the tire is further away.
Seems like the camber angle of the spindle might be different as well.

The one on the left looks (to me ) to have more angle .
The distance from the frame to the tires looks about the same to me.
Get a tape measure

 

[396 big block]

I put my foot between the frame and the spindle , on the 120 my foot was on top of the spindle and the 140 it touched the inside edge.


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[Leinie]

The one where your foot was on the spindle - look how much further from the spindle the tire is.

Get a tape measure and measure outside of tire to outside of tire.

 

[rustyoldjunk]

Is the axle wider on the later 110,112,140 (The ones with the 1 inch spindles)?

 

[UrbanTractor]

...
Seems like the camber angle of the spindle might be different as well....

This is what I was getting at. Yes, the difference from the tractor to the top of the spindle does look different. But the distance from the tractor to the edge of the wheel rim looks the same to me. It appears that when they beefed up the spindle, they also changed the camber angle, making the axle appear wider but the track width remains the same.

 

[rustyoldjunk]

Look at the top of the wheel spindle to frame and took me whether you think it looks the same?

 

[396 big block]

Ok I went outside and measured, smaller is 120 which is 5 1/2" from frame and 37 1/4" outside tire dimensions The 140 is 5 5/8" from frame and 38 1/2" outside tire Demensions. View attachment 256905 View attachment 256913 View attachment 256921 View attachment 256929


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[UrbanTractor]

It's interesting. Maybe they made the front stance wider in the later years when they beefed up the axle spindles? This would probably be advantageous for stability with an FEL.

Or????

 

[Old96er]

Ok I went outside and measured, smaller is 120 which is 5 1/2" from frame and 37 1/4" outside tire dimensions The 140 is 5 5/8" from frame and 38 1/2" outside tire Demensions. View attachment 256905 View attachment 256913 View attachment 256921 View attachment 256929


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I think you mean 4 1/2" not 5 1/2"...

 

[Leinie]

I think you mean 4 1/2" not 5 1/2"...

Picture looks like about 5 1/2 to me. Where do you come up with 4 1/2 ?

 

[396 big block]

I think you mean 4 1/2" not 5 1/2"...

It's 5 1/2" frame to inside wheel not spindle.. Actually 5 5/16"

 

[Old96er]

It's 5 1/2" frame to inside wheel not spindle.. Actually 5 5/16"

My mistake, I thought you were measuring where the spindles where in relation to the frame.

This brings up another question, is the difference accounted for in the wheel offset or is it the knuckle?