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1050 Wisconsin no spark

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Wisconsin Engine
Model: TRA 12D
Spec. # 396284
Serial #: 6203340

No spark at the plug. Tried a new coil, new plug and new plug wire.

What would be the next logical place to look?

Thanks.
Dan
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Is this a 1050 tractor with a TRA12D engine?If so is it a solid state ignition or points and condensor?If it is a 1050,it should be a TRA10D or a TR10D engine,all of those had points and condensor I believe.
Does it have points or is it solid state? If it is points check your points gap and also make sure that nothing is grounding out on the cover for the points box, the one piece is really close to the cover. Ran in to that problem with our 1053. Also if the points gap is more then .002 over spec they seem to not like it either and the spark never jumps the points.
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It's a 1050 with a TRA-12D engine (solid state ignition)
Has it ever run since the engine was installed?What I'm thinking is that some of the wiring would need to be changed for that engine in that tractor,possibly somethings not wired correctly.
It's been running fine for over a year now, until this past weekend.

Just plain quit while my father was mowing. The TRA-12D engine
was in it when he bought it used a couple years ago.

He did say that the spark plug wire looked burnt on both ends,
so he replaced it, but still no spark as of yet.
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If its like a Tecumseh with SSI ignition,maybe the trigger pins came out of the flywheel??..also you cant use spark plug wire that has a carbon core,its got to be stainless or copper wire inside it..
I am having issues with my 1256 with a TRA-12D engine in it. I have spark, compression (new rings), and gas at carburator. When I rebuilt the engine I missed the oportunity to take pics of the engine before I took it apart. Could you take pics of the carb linkage and how it is all connected up? I am flabergasted as to how it all goes back together. I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Darrell S.
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I am having issues with my 1256 with a TRA-12D engine in it. I have spark, compression (new rings), and gas at carburator. When I rebuilt the engine I missed the oportunity to take pics of the engine before I took it apart. Could you take pics of the carb linkage and how it is all connected up? I am flabergasted as to how it all goes back together. I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Darrell S.
take a pic of your carb parts and mabye I can tell you where they go
-Brian
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....Could you take pics of the carb linkage and how it is all connected up? I am flabergasted as to how it all goes back together. I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Darrell S.
Here it is... in addition, the important thing is to hook the green hose that
comes through the front of the engine compartment to the connection to the
left under the black breather hose. All other hoses hook up to the "T"
connection.

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In this picture ignore the green gas hose that runs off to the left and concentrate on the "T" connector. Note that one leg of the "T" comes out of the air filter housing. A second leg of the "T" is the black hose that connects just above the gas line connector on the left of the carburetor and loops up and over and back down to the "T".

The last picture looks straight in on the carburetor and shows the last link of the "T" connector coming in from the bottom of the picture and going up to the "T".

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Thanks DCOOKE. I already see one issue I created for myself. I hope to get back to it tonight....maybe. My grandson came over this week and was SOOO sad the tractor wasn't running. It broke my heart to see him so sad.

Thanks to everyone I hope I post a success soon.

Darrell S.
Here is what I see:

It looks like I have the linkage at the flywheel cover on wrong. I also did not have the spacer that goes between the cover and the linkage. I will have to machine one.

I still do not see where the throttle return spring connects to. I know one end connected to the hole just below the linkage at the top of the governer lever. The top hole is where the throttle linkage is connected. Where does the other end of the return spring connect to?

You mentioned several hoses and a "T". I only have the one gas line (mine is black) that connects right to the carb. I also do not have a hose that was connected to the breather tube that comes off the valve cover. Where should that go?

I have tried to upload pictures but they are too big. The files are JPG and are high resolution and at least 2600 kb. How do I shrink the files down to upload?
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The gas line has nothing to do with the T. The T connector
is for the vacuum lines.

Here's a couple more if they help any.

The quick and easy way I use to shrink pictures is to right-click the
pictures and select the "Send To" option and then select "Mail Recipient".
Then select the option for "Make all my pictures smaller". Then put your
email address in the To: area and send them to yourself so you can
save the smaller version of your pictures to your computer when the
email comes back.

I'll look into getting a picture of the throttle spring connection(s).
Not sure about a throttle spring, but the governor spring is shown
in the 2nd picture in post #11 above.

Dan

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Here are some pictures I took this morning. Thanks for the help to shrink them down. I just hope I can remember how to do it again next time.

The middle pic shows the throttle spring attached to the governor linkage (second hole from the top). In the third pic you see where I just hooked it to the valve cover vent tube.

In the first pic you see how I have the 3 prong linkage at the flywheel cover oriented. Obviously this is wrong. Also, which hole of the lower ones on the governor linkage should the spring be connected to. I know this is to control the top RPM. Is there a hole I should start at then adjust from there as needed?

The threaded rod attached with the spring to the governor linkage and the linkage at the flywheel cover. How much thread should be extended at the flywheel linkage end?

I also just remembered that I never tightened up the bolt on the governor linkage. What is the procedure to do this to insure the linkage is oriented correctly on the shaft? Should I rotate the shaft clockwise untill it stops, counter-clockwise until it stops or mid rotation before I tighten the lever. Once I have the shaft in the correct position what position does the lever need to be in? Does the orientation even matter?

I do not have a crankcase vent to connect to. The hole on the filter tube looks like it is missing a fitting to connect a tube from the valve cover vent tube. The hole is too big and it looks like it is just a hub cast into the body of the throat. What does the connection look like? I never had anything there.

I might even be close or at least closer. Zane (my grandson) will love everyone that helped Papa (me) get this going!

:thanku: :thanku: :thanku:

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Hopefully someone with more Bolens experience can help you with
the carb settings... but check out this exerpt from Brian Miller's
web site on how to set the governor (kohler instructions, but
works for virtually any engine)

http://gardentractorpullingtips.com/carbfuel.htm#carbadjustments

Dan
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Thanks for the info on the governor.

Here a couple more pics I took at lunch. The first one shows the hole where I am guessing the vent tube from the valve cover connects to. As you can see in this pic and the third one there is nothing to connect it to. I am supposing that there is an attachment that is pressed (there are no threads) into the hole that the tube would connect to.

The middle pic shows the threaded end I mentioned earlier.

Thanks for all the help,
Darrell S.

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