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09-17-2019 10:05 AM
js5020d
Re: JD or Husqvarna

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Originally Posted by still.try.decide View Post
In response to Redneck, RT3360.
Ok, maybe it's not a clear cut design flaw, but does it happen to JDs too? I mean John Deere owners may use dirty cans too. So maybe Kubota fuel lines are too narrow? I don't know. Has anybody have this problem with John Deere tractors?
It's really not a design flaw, if one does as they are suppose to and only put in clean fresh fuel it won't happen. If you don't it won't matter what color the machine is. Fuel storage systems need maintenance to! Usually an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure when it comes to fuel and their storage systems. I give my storage cans, gas and diesel a visual inspection a few times a year. I'm fussy about where I buy fuel. I don't store my cans out in the weather. I repair or replace any can that has compromised sealing properties.

The green or orange thing,,,,, both are good machines. I bought a new sub compact last year drove both and put a BX23S in the shed next to my JD, I just liked the Kubota better, I liked the dealer better, I liked the fact that the Kubota dealer is 10 miles away and the JD dealer is over 40 miles away. 260 hours later I'm still happy with the Kubota.
09-16-2019 09:38 PM
steddy
Re: JD or Husqvarna

All brands and all models have some sort of design flaw/quirk. There is no perfect brand or model. Pick what brand/model you think is best, and someone else will tell you whatís wrong with it the manufacturer should have done different. It could be a fluke, maintenance issue, bad design, or chronic problem.
09-16-2019 09:32 PM
still.try.decide
Re: JD or Husqvarna

In response to Redneck, RT3360.
Ok, maybe it's not a clear cut design flaw, but does it happen to JDs too? I mean John Deere owners may use dirty cans too. So maybe Kubota fuel lines are too narrow? I don't know. Has anybody have this problem with John Deere tractors?
09-16-2019 04:57 PM
js5020d
Re: JD or Husqvarna

Well my neighbor just had this same issue with their Kubota BX25D. Fuel starvation caused by junk getting into the tank and blocking the fuel line. The fix was pretty easy, blew air into the blocked line so I could empty the tank then took a small shop vac ran the hose into the tank and sucked out the crud. Took a whole 30 minutes tops. Further investigation of the fuel cans used to supply the machine yielded the cause,,, dirty cans!
09-16-2019 12:20 PM
RT3360
Re: JD or Husqvarna

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Originally Posted by Nouveau Redneck View Post
I have the same model Kubota, the BX25D. I've had mine for a little over 5 years now and I have never had the problem that he described, which was that something foreign got inside the fuel tank that was blocking the outlet line. That is not a design flaw, that is operator error. If you allow junk to get in the fuel tank then the outlet line can get clogged on any brand or model of tractor. He claimed that the elbow in the outlet line was the cause of the issue, but he never said exactly what it was that was in there causing the clog. If it was too big for the diameter of the outlet pipe then it wouldn't matter if the pipe had the elbow or if it was straight.
I agree. Stuff in the fuel blocking the line/L fitting is not a ďdesign flaw.Ē My friend is finishing his second summer of mowing with his BX2380 and loves it. The only wrenching he has done on it is oil changes and adding grease. Other than that he adds diesel fuel. He has a new snowblower on order for this winter, so I would say to cross off Kubota as an alternative would mean you are missing out on a great tractor! Keep reading and test driving all you can to find the right fit for you.

The comment of the ROPS and hitting tree branches is true, but is the same for all SCUTs. One of the reasons Deere made the X7xx lighter so it didnít have to have a ROPS.
09-16-2019 08:24 AM
Country1966?
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Originally Posted by still.try.decide View Post
Hi
I want to thank everybody for chipping in. I haven't decided yet, I got time till spring. But I have to tell you all that this forum changed my thinking about tractors already.
No more HuskandSharawma for me, it's a nice lawn mower but it's become clear I need more. I won't buy a big tractor, that's too much for me but I'm thinking of moving up from John Deere X500 series to a SCUT.
I'm also going for a John Deere exclusively. I saw this video about Kubota BX25, at 2:22 min. Eric explains a design flaw with the fuel line. the vid. is here
So I would find it hard to trust a company that makes such bad designs. Although many Kubotas may serve people well I don't have time to take chances, since I'm not a mechanic.

As for the idea that buying an older tractor is buying a reliable machine, because "in the good old days things were made solid" I have this video, which some may have seen. Listen to the guy at 16:44 min.

So now I believe I need to go Green, and I need to go a little bigger. As much as I can afford to strike a balance between size, price and year/hours.
I will post my choice at the latest in May 2020.
And I hope I can still ask you guys some questions as time goes by.
thank you very much
I think a SCUT is a wise move and remember that they hold their value very well.

In your case you could buy and use a SCUT with a FEL to get your property the way you want it then sell it.

Especially if you buy a used SCUT with loader and mower you probably won't even lose money when/if you sell it.
09-16-2019 08:17 AM
Nouveau Redneck
Re: JD or Husqvarna

Quote:
I saw this video about Kubota BX25, at 2:22 min. Eric explains a design flaw with the fuel line.
Quote:
So I would find it hard to trust a company that makes such bad designs.
I have the same model Kubota, the BX25D. I've had mine for a little over 5 years now and I have never had the problem that he described, which was that something foreign got inside the fuel tank that was blocking the outlet line. That is not a design flaw, that is operator error. If you allow junk to get in the fuel tank then the outlet line can get clogged on any brand or model of tractor. He claimed that the elbow in the outlet line was the cause of the issue, but he never said exactly what it was that was in there causing the clog. If it was too big for the diameter of the outlet pipe then it wouldn't matter if the pipe had the elbow or if it was straight.
09-16-2019 04:03 AM
still.try.decide
Re: JD or Husqvarna

Hi
I want to thank everybody for chipping in. I haven't decided yet, I got time till spring. But I have to tell you all that this forum changed my thinking about tractors already.
No more HuskandSharawma for me, it's a nice lawn mower but it's become clear I need more. I won't buy a big tractor, that's too much for me but I'm thinking of moving up from John Deere X500 series to a SCUT.
I'm also going for a John Deere exclusively. I saw this video about Kubota BX25, at 2:22 min. Eric explains a design flaw with the fuel line. the vid. is here
So I would find it hard to trust a company that makes such bad designs. Although many Kubotas may serve people well I don't have time to take chances, since I'm not a mechanic.

As for the idea that buying an older tractor is buying a reliable machine, because "in the good old days things were made solid" I have this video, which some may have seen. Listen to the guy at 16:44 min.

So now I believe I need to go Green, and I need to go a little bigger. As much as I can afford to strike a balance between size, price and year/hours.
I will post my choice at the latest in May 2020.
And I hope I can still ask you guys some questions as time goes by.
thank you very much
08-31-2019 08:57 AM
Ss313
Re: JD or Husqvarna

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Originally Posted by still.try.decide View Post
what do you mean 'brutal"? You're just sitting on a tractor, driving it. Is it the bumps, or did you have to constantly back up because the tractor couldn't pull it? So is it the size of the tractor that makes is difficult, or is it the single plow? because it forces you to make multiple passes?


Breaking ground is tough. Iím sure this fall will be easier. Yes I had to back up multiple times. I really needed front weights. You have to be going at a decent pace for the plow to turn the soil over properly and it gets bumpy. If I havenít found a CUT by spring Iím probably going to put a 3 point on the 430 and see how it does plowing.


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08-29-2019 10:25 AM
Rando58
Re: JD or Husqvarna

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Originally Posted by still.try.decide View Post
Hi everybody
I will need to buy a garden tractor to cultivate a couple of acres, 2 at first, then maybe clear some land and work on more. I really like the specs of Husqvarna GT52XLSi, (dif lock, strong enough tuff torqe transaxle) but I don't like their frame twisting and buckling. I want to use my tractor with a moldboard plow, cultivator, harrow etc. and maybe even with the front plow/loader. So I am really leaning towards JD x570, it's more expensive but in the long run what good is Husqvarna if the frame buckles. Also my terrain is uneven and we got a little bit of a slope. What would you guys choose? Someone said not to discount Cub Cadet, but I also have to look at dealerships, and around Fredericton New Brunswick there are not that many choices, I need to look at the future service, parts etc. Would JD X570 be a good choice?
thanks
Talk with oldpaddy. He bought a new Husqvarna last year and tears the tare out of it and can't seem to hurt it. Has a FEL he uses with it.
08-28-2019 11:15 PM
Oldham
Re: JD or Husqvarna

For mowing my 1-1/2 acre field, the Husqvarna TS348D was a good deal and suits my needs fine. If I want to move dirt or push gravel, I'll use my JD750 with 4WD for those tasks.
08-28-2019 08:11 PM
TahoeJoe
Re: JD or Husqvarna

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that's funny, just before I read your post I deleted all my links in my computer on Husqvarna, as I decided to go with Deere or Kubota.
For sure, in my case, sometimes a deal comes along on a machine that has all the functionality and features you want. It did for me, and thats why I pulled the trigger on this old jacobsen. It certainly wasn't on my shopping list, but at $2500, it was a no brainer, and ticked all boxes I was looking for. You sound like a deal hunter too, just keep your eyes open.

If you want a new rock solid machine, support, no wrenching, and the best resell value, nothing runs like a deere
08-28-2019 07:21 PM
Rando58
Re: JD or Husqvarna

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Originally Posted by still.try.decide View Post
that's funny, just before I read your post I deleted all my links in my computer on Husqvarna, as I decided to go with Deere or Kubota. You are the first to recommend Husqvarna, against everybody else criticizing it. I did have my heart set on Husqvarna for the very reason of value, you get so much for half price. but if I were to find myself constantly underpowered and with a twisted frame , then no thanks. I would buy it if all I needed was lawn mowing, for sure, but I do need to use some plows, harrows, and cultivators, and now Im even thinking of an FEL, cause someone needs to build that root cellar!
The Orange is a nice color and it works in many many situation but apparently not for ground engaging, not since they changed that frame design/or steel quality in 2018
All I can say is those little tools, implements, don't do much after a few rains. You can basically only use the disk very soon after you plow. Put it away the rest of the year because it, under many circumstances, will hardly scratch the dirt once the ground gets hardened up after a few rains. Cultivator is the same way. A tiller is about the only thing that you can use all summer. Then it gets tough for it as well sometimes. Sounds like you may have some clay ground? I'm sure you have noticed how hard the ground in a garden can get after a while. Sandy ground would be a little different. That's why so many of us are saying a real tractor and equipment, of some kind, larger than the GT and that equipment caliber. Seems to me lots of people with small plots that sell lots of stuff from them use those two wheeled walk behind tractors. For the most part a tiller is their main implement with those two wheeled tractors? I have an old JD 50 now. (Having a little work done on it) I would not recommend getting one this old. I thought about getting rid of it but not now. The implements and tractor are much better and much more capable to do stuff and really cheap. Ok, I'm done!!
08-28-2019 06:52 PM
steddy
Re: JD or Husqvarna

I'd go Kubota over deere, personal preference. I don't like the cast aluminum rear rends many of the deeres have. Also many of the Deere loaders you can't lift and curl simultaneously due to the valve setup. I don't know if that's true across their entire lineup, though.

Truth be known, I'd own a deere instead of a Kubota if the deal had come up at the right time, but that was before I knew of the aluminum housing and valve quirk. I probably would have lived with it, though, if the deal was right. The Yanmar and Kubota engines are both top notch IMHO. I'd also have bought another Massey Ferguson if the right deal came up when I was shopping last year. Again just my own opinion based on what I read here and see on YouTube and hear from my father-in-law (a 35+ year experience agricultural mechanic so his experiences fixing numerous brands of broken machines), I avoided LS and Mahindra. Didn't really give Kioti the chance they may have deserved. For the money, the Mahindra and LS are decent machines, though.

BTW a lot of people say JD is the best, which is an INCREDIBLY subjective opinion. Although they DO have probably the most extensive dealer and support network out there. They do some innovative stuff with quick attach stuff like mower deck and loader, but as with anything new and innovative there can be problems leading it to be more of an inconvenience than anything.

I'll say this, though - no matter what you end up with, make sure it has a quick detach loader, especially if you mow with it. It'll be on and off a lot. Most stuff has quick detach loader, but there's a few pretty new machines I've seen that bolt on rather than pin on. (One can argue the semi-permanent mount loaders are more ridgid though). Skid steer quick attach and 3rd function hydraulic valve are nice, also.
08-28-2019 04:03 PM
still.try.decide
Re: JD or Husqvarna

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Originally Posted by TahoeJoe View Post
I own JD & Husqvarna. I would go Husqvarna simply for the value, more bang for your buck.
Recently I went for an older commercial machine. Lots of bang for the buck, this one didn't need much, front tires and a belt.
that's funny, just before I read your post I deleted all my links in my computer on Husqvarna, as I decided to go with Deere or Kubota. You are the first to recommend Husqvarna, against everybody else criticizing it. I did have my heart set on Husqvarna for the very reason of value, you get so much for half price. but if I were to find myself constantly underpowered and with a twisted frame , then no thanks. I would buy it if all I needed was lawn mowing, for sure, but I do need to use some plows, harrows, and cultivators, and now Im even thinking of an FEL, cause someone needs to build that root cellar!
The Orange is a nice color and it works in many many situation but apparently not for ground engaging, not since they changed that frame design/or steel quality in 2018
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