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post #16 of 27 Old 04-03-2019, 07:26 AM Thread Starter
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After discussing this with my DR. he sent me for xrays and and scheduled a MRI. I now have an appointment with a neurologist the end of May .
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After discussing this with my DR. he sent me for xrays and and scheduled a MRI. I now have an appointment with a neurologist the end of May .
Thanks for your help guys .
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Good. Based on the films the neuro can send you to PT or OT or take a medication or as a last resort surgical approach. This is a neuro issue and is best addressed by a neurologist.

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If you doctor doesn’t believe you it’s time to find a new doctor. If he doesn’t understand you, it’s time to find a new doctor.
Dr.s are few and far between that are taking new patients around here. I just happy to be moving forward with this .
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David, I am a Physical Therapist asst and former mechanic of 20yrs. I work as a neuro specialist in a hospital seeing many people who have had issues such as yours and surgery to correct it.
As we abuse our bodies we grow extra bone in our cervical vertebrae and compress our disks--the cushions between vertebrae. This closes off the nerve pathways of nerves coming out of our spinal cord that power and allow our arms to work and feel. When you get in a position working overhead you further close off/pinch the nerves
which is probably causing your numbness.
An X-ray of your neck would probably verify this and the proper doctor to help you is a neurosurgeon, not a private practice/clinic doc.

Hope this helps. Feel free to ask anything else and I'll try to help.
Beat me to it Steve, very articulated and eloquent too!

If I hold a phone for more than two mins. Half my fingers go numb on either hand. I have some serious nerve pain issues due to a former injury, work abuse and time (I'm about 15 years older than the original poster). I would think your doctor should have some diagnostic testing done, e.g. MRI to ascertain spinal nerve impingement or other potential issues. I know the pressure on nerves emanating from the spine causes the symptoms you note along with pain, at times excruciating pain.

I wish you well and hope you find some relief. The golden years are when the take your gold to treat your lifelong physical issues. Some are blessed with amazing genetics and good fortune. The rest of us suffer in some manner.

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Dave, my problem was carpal tunnel, surgery put me out of commission for about 2-3 months. Not as restraining or uncomfortable as a halo, but you would then be very close to normal. Or possibly like me, “ABBY 🤪 NORMAL”, as my sweet wife would say. She uses that infamous “Young Dr. Frankinstine” parody movie term a lot on me for some strange reason, but love ❤️ her anyway.
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Please find another doctor. I would search for one who specializes in Ergonomic related injuries. I’m no doctor, but I spent over twenty years analyzing work processes in the automotive industry for ergonomic risk factors.

Hands down, the absolute worst jobs, the ones responsible for more injuries, were those requiring overhead or above the shoulder work. Those jobs always ranked at the top of the priority list for countermeasure. Working in such a poor posture puts tremendous stress on your spine, shoulders, and ball and sockets in your shoulders.

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Dave, if I was any help at all you are certainly welcome. I'm glad that you are now getting set up for a more thorough exam of this and hopefully this can be improved by exercise and therapy. Best of luck!

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I haven't been active here lately but I'm glad I read the "trending posts" email and found this thread. I've also had similar problems, even as long ago as ~1980 when I was just 31 years of age. My girlfriend was teaching me how to knit or crochet, and I found that activity caused my hands to cramp and become numb. She found it relaxing, but I found it stressful. I also had this happen when using a chainsaw or string trimmer. In 1983 I was playing volleyball and got a pain in my leg, which eventually became back pain and it was found to be bulging discs and inflamed nerves due to congenital spinal stenosis. The sciatica would get really bad for a while and then subside, so I could go back to playing sports. But by the time I reached 60 in 2009 I had a lot of pain and weakness in my right leg, especially, and I had to cut back on strenuous sports and other physical activity.

Much of that problem was due to severe bone-on-bone arthritis is my right hip, and finally I went for a hip replacement in 2013, which helped a lot, and I was walking comfortably after about a month of rehab. But I still had significant back pain and sciatica. MRIs and X-rays showed that I had spinal stenosis along all of my back, but especially in the cervical and lumbar spine. I found an excellent surgeon, Dr Ira Fedder, who said he could perform surgery, but first I would need the cervical spine fixed. In 2015 I underwent an Anterior Cervical Discectomy and Fusion, which was scary, but it was very successful. For a while I had lost most strength in my right triceps, but after a couple months it was back to normal. In 2016 I went back in for the lumbar spine fusion, and that almost eliminated the lower back pain and sciatica.

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In 2017 I had a total knee replacement, which corrected severe bone-on-bone arthritis is that joint, and that completes my orthopedic surgeries to date. But I have continued to experience numbness and tingling in my legs, arms, and hands, especially when I have been lying in bed for a long time. I have gone to physical therapy from time to time, and it has helped some, but it seems to be getting worse. I've been stepping up my level of strenuous physical activity, cutting and splitting wood, moving rocks, brush trimming, digging, raking, and mowing.

My symptoms seem consistent with Thoracic Outlet Syndrome, and I'll ask my GP when I go in for my annual physical in a few weeks (around my 70th birthday). I'm sure it has a lot to do with my posture and spending too much time sitting at my computer, and maybe I need to look into a better pillow or perhaps a neck brace. Hopefully not this one:

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I am now 54 a mechanic by trade .. The last few years (progressively getting worse ) when I spend any length of time working over my head . The next few days my arms and hands are numb / pins and needles . My Dr. either doses not beleave me or understand what is going on . Are there any of you that experiencing this ??
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Welcome to the lost fountain of youth. Iam 66. At your age I was beginning to have issues working on Plains/Engines overhead and under side of wings with arms up for 10 hour shifts. I had a nerve study and in my neck are pinched nerves. Things are much worse now. But there is another issue adding to it: "Frozen shoulder" . I had a bone graft on right clavical and was told to keep upper arm reaches going and keep the activity to keep the motion. I was then caught in down sizing and ended upo driving in town Coach for 15 years. I did little to help thing by exercize. Even now, a little exercize makes an immediate improvement. I am right handed and am told that typically as I am typical, it would be the lft shoulder that is the worse as we reach up with our dominent hand. Be proactive, protect joints and nerves, stay duples active and exercized. Do not push high weight, instead total reps in total range of motion possible. If range of motion is limited, then tose reps might at max be the weight of your arm raisin up in the least strength angle off the shoulder. Consult a fitness or therapy person and use their advise, not mine.
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Dave, hope that you find some relief and that the article was useful! We don't want it keeping you from enjoying tractors!


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I am on sick leave now . Dr. has me Gabapenton for nerve pain . I see a neurologist the end of May. and have MRI in July . Start physio next week . I beleave the back is now giving me tension headaches . WE will see what the next couple of months bring .
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