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post #1 of 19 Old 07-02-2019, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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I hesitate to start this post of a project that I've postponed for too long - most especially because I know you folks like to see progress reports and you like them frequently. Well, I'm not working at that pace any longer, so you'll have to take them when I get to them.

First my loosely formed plan: My pressure treated deck was built about 27 years ago. I took the time to clean, seal, and stain regularly for the first 20+ years. Then, I let it go a couple years, and couldn't get it as clean first, then it just got out of hand.

Here is a picture from the last time I "successfully" cleaned, stained, and sealed it about 5 years ago:



That was a Cedar shaded stain with sealer in it.

And, unfortunately, a similar angle of how it looked this morning:



This is the north side of my house, and shaded about 80% of the day. Letting it get ahead of me was a mistake. And, at 27 years, the CCA has given up the ghost. My plan is to rip the deck surface off, including railings, benches, facia, steps, down to the substructure. From the underside the substructure looks pretty good, but 27 years ago the deck was nailed down with those galvanized spiral nails, and they just tend to break off, rather than pull. I'm not sure what the tops of the floor joist will look like when I get the deck off. Decisions will be made then. Fingers crossed, most or all of it will pass muster and I'll reuse. But, I plan to use one of the manufactured decking (Trex or TimberTech are top of my list now) and I don't want to invest as much as that will cost only to have substructure failure in 5-10 years under it. We'll see.




This afternoon, once the temps and humidity were both above 90, I started with the railing and built in benches. This is how far I got when Scout who was watching from the shade declared us finished for the day.



All comments always welcome. I'll especially appreciate those indicating I am not working fast enough.

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Jere, I appreciate your early quit. I'm in the same area and dealing with the 90 degree weather also. Just finished redoing the front fiberglass door and the necessary painting around the area. Getting too old for this work anymore. I also have to redo my back deck before it gets too bad. I replace the decking about 3 years ago and resealed it 2 years ago. It needs to be pressure washed and then dry and resealed. The rain this year has been awful. I think that I'll get to it soon. (HA Ha) Herb
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Ha Ha....when I read the heading Deck Restore...I thought we were talking about a mower deck!
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I "re-decked" my deck 3 years ago. Good thing I did it then as I don't think I could do it anymore. New stairs, decking, and railing. I used treated wood. I have put on a lot of manufactured stuff and I am simply not sold on it. If it is a dark color, you can't stand to walk on it, it gets so hot. The original deck lasted 24 years. That will be more than enough to make it someone elses problem when it needs it again. The most expensive part was the aluminum railing. It cost more than the entire deck did in '92. Like I said, I did it 3 years ago, and have not sealed it yet. Does it need it yet?

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This is one of the handiest tools I have for straitening warped deck boards, one person can use it, and it holds it in place while you screw down the board.

https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools...ntent=GS_cepco

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Jere,

This is one of the handiest tools I have for straitening warped deck boards, one person can use it, and it holds it in place while you screw down the board.

https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools...ntent=GS_cepco

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Oh yeah! Certainly agree on that. Well worth the money when doing our two decks.

Jere, thanks for the scare, our side deck is starting to show some wear on the stain (actually it started last year) so should be doing it. I generally put it off till Fall (lots cooler) but then I figure why do it just to have it covered with snow? "Guess I'll wait for spring." Last time I did that it went five years, not three like I use to. Well seeing that picture convinces me. This Fall is the time! Hopefully.
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It is pretty stinking hot here in the mid-Atlantic, and it is a holiday, but, I hate projects that drag out. So, this morning, while temps were only in the 80's, I took some more of the old deck off:



At which point my dear wife, and supervisor of 40+ years observed that we should scrub the slider, siding, windows, and especially behind the balustrades while there is still an old deck to stand on:



Help is always appreciated, especially supervisory help!

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It is pretty stinking hot here in the mid-Atlantic, and it is a holiday, but, I hate projects that drag out. So, this morning, while temps were only in the 80's, I took some more of the old deck off:



At which point my dear wife, and supervisor of 40+ years observed that we should scrub the slider, siding, windows, and especially behind the balustrades while there is still an old deck to stand on:



Help is always appreciated, especially supervisory help!
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Alas--good thinking--bad timing...STOP one project to do a side, but associated project--and hard to get back to original focus. My supervisor of 46 years is right there w/ me all the time--except she wants it 'right now''--even if 6 pm at night and I'm dog-tired.
Sorry--didn't mean to steal ur show..
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Jere,
Know your pain! We redid our back deck 3 years ago. Same as you, it was done in the heat of July & August.
https://www.mytractorforum.com/88-my...back-deck.html
As others have mentioned the composites get hot in the sun, no matter what color you have. Plus, ours on the northwest side of house gets a film of green on it from one year to next. Have to brush it good with simple green to keep it looking nice. Still a lot easier than using power washer with PT wood that was on there.
Good luck & keep us posted!

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Thanks guys. On top of the heat and humidity, we have thunderstorms every 12 hours or so. And as a "retiree" I don't have to work in the rain, and can work at my own pace in the heat. So, as predicted, I am not making progress at the pace I would want if I were paying someone to get it done. Anyway, I pulled a section of the deck off today, and so far, the substructure looks pretty good:



And my supervisor found a picture of the house before this deck was built, back when there was a stack of RR ties leading to the sliders out from the dining room. The operator there on the excavator is the same young man who shows up in my motorcycle videos except now he is 6'3" and has a long ZZTop style beard.


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Jere,
Know your pain! We redid our back deck 3 years ago. Same as you, it was done in the heat of July & August.
https://www.mytractorforum.com/88-my...back-deck.html
As others have mentioned the composites get hot in the sun, no matter what color you have. Plus, ours on the northwest side of house gets a film of green on it from one year to next. Have to brush it good with simple green to keep it looking nice. Still a lot easier than using power washer with PT wood that was on there.
Good luck & keep us posted!
I watched your progress in that thread and even optomistically contributed that I was only a couple weeks behind you on my own project. Well, that couple weeks turned into 3 years. You still happy with your deck surface? Still holding the color, staying clean, and not too hot to walk on?

Thanks for the reminder

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I watched your progress in that thread and even optomistically contributed that I was only a couple weeks behind you on my own project. Well, that couple weeks turned into 3 years. You still happy with your deck surface? Still holding the color, staying clean, and not too hot to walk on?

Thanks for the reminder
I am happy with it compared to the PT deck boards.
It does get hot, but I think that is the norm with all composites. Ours is brown, but have been on light gray decks and they get hot also. It's the nature of the beast.
Color has held up good. There has been some mold/green residue that has developed each year, but as I mentioned before, some Simple Green solution and stiff broom/brush and cleans up nice.
Also, have to use plastic snow shovel in winter time so the boards don't get scrapped up by a rough metal shovel when cleaning up by the back door.

The only other issue I have had with it and will not do again is hidden fasteners. The deck boards are vinyl wrapped to give varying wood grain texture & color. The dog somehow was able to pull part of the vinyl off. I would have had to pull half of deck off to replace it, but ended up cutting a patch from leftover piece & glueing down after trimming torn section clean. I will get some pictures to show. The front deck we just did I went with screw thru boards and am happy with the look.

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Thanks. I've decided to strip my entire deck before starting to lay the new composite. I really want to be very confident of my decision to use the existing substructure. Everything looks good so far. And, in spite of this absolutely oppresive heat and humidity, I am still making progress. And, as luck would have it, I'll get a break this afternoon to mow the lawn.



And, the growing pile of decking that has been removed, and nails removed (as best I can, some were so rusted and deteriorated they broke off and with the nailer buried heads, I would have had to ruin more of the board to cat's paw it out, so I let them. Next use will need to be vigilent before sawing:


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Thanks. I've decided to strip my entire deck before starting to lay the new composite. I really want to be very confident of my decision to use the existing substructure. Everything looks good so far. And, in spite of this absolutely oppresive heat and humidity, I am still making progress. And, as luck would have it, I'll get a break this afternoon to mow the lawn.
And, the growing pile of decking that has been removed, and nails removed (as best I can, some were so rusted and deteriorated they broke off and with the nailer buried heads, I would have had to ruin more of the board to cat's paw it out, so I let them. Next use will need to be vigilent before sawing:
Structure looks good. Find any interesting stuff/animals/etc. underneath?
I still have a pile of about half of my old deck boards that need to be removed/recycled. I was thinking about making planter boxes or something else, but time is not my friend.

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The near tropical weather has me hopping to keep up with the mowing, my Grand kids watching, and an unplanned visit from my sister and family. Today I had a quick repair to A/C at church, some furniture rearrangement for the mid-summer floor strip and wax. But, this afternoon, I got back to my deck and ripped off another 100 square feet.



It takes more time to pull the nails and sort my strippings for some as yet unassigned project:



Progress is not quite stalled, but neither is it flying by.

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