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Ok guys, I scanned back through this thread and decided I need to requalify myself. I am not a structural engineer, nor am I a qualified, nor licensed building inspector. So, I am only representing myself as a long time observer of building practices, a frequent concrete pouring laborer, a Georgia Buggy operator, and most frequently a wheelbarrow operator. So, I consider myself barely qualified to exchange observations, and certainly not to define concrete structure requirements.

Here it is closing in on a week after the floor slab pours and the general contractor was back steering his dozer operator into pushing about 18" of fill into the trenches outside the walls, now that the inside of the walls base is stabilized by the floor slab.



And another wall on another direction:



And, while the operator was doing that, the GC placed a tube form dead center in the garage space, followed by some more fill in there:



My guess is that they will pour concrete in the tube form to establish a footing for the center of the garage slab. Followed by more fill inside and out, before pouring an actual slab there. You can see the entrance sill for the garage: (it's the right corner space in this picture)

While there the dozer operator re-leveled the stone entrance driveway that had been kind of rutted by crane, concrete pumper, and concrete trucks. I assume he is getting ready for another Crane and then the house modules.

But, but, but, our weather forecast is not the greatest: A couple inches of snow Thursday night, then again Saturday night, followed by a Sunday of Wintery Mix, and then the temps plummet into the single digits for a couple days. Maybe not much happening here for at least a week
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In the first set of pics that Jere posted, there are several squares formed up on the floors. Can someone explain what those might be for? Thanks

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Ok guys, I scanned back through this thread and decided I need to requalify myself. I am not a structural engineer, nor am I a qualified, nor licensed building inspector. So, I am only representing myself as a long time observer of building practices, a frequent concrete pouring laborer, a Georgia Buggy operator, and most frequently a wheelbarrow operator. So, I consider myself barely qualified to exchange observations, and certainly not to define concrete structure requirements.

Here it is closing in on a week after the floor slab pours and the general contractor was back steering his dozer operator into pushing about 18" of fill into the trenches outside the walls, now that the inside of the walls base is stabilized by the floor slab.



And another wall on another direction:



And, while the operator was doing that, the GC placed a tube form dead center in the garage space, followed by some more fill in there:



My guess is that they will pour concrete in the tube form to establish a footing for the center of the garage slab. Followed by more fill inside and out, before pouring an actual slab there. You can see the entrance sill for the garage: (it's the right corner space in this picture)

While there the dozer operator re-leveled the stone entrance driveway that had been kind of rutted by crane, concrete pumper, and concrete trucks. I assume he is getting ready for another Crane and then the house modules.

But, but, but, our weather forecast is not the greatest: A couple inches of snow Thursday night, then again Saturday night, followed by a Sunday of Wintery Mix, and then the temps plummet into the single digits for a couple days. Maybe not much happening here for at least a week
Jere, If that sill is the proposed garage, you think the garage is a side load garage because that large opening to the left of the garage looks like a proposed basement door for walkout with steps.

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Jere, If that sill is the proposed garage, you think the garage is a side load garage because that large opening to the left of the garage looks like a proposed basement door for walkout with steps.

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I believe that is an egress window, somewhere to get out in case of an emergency. It is your second option in case of a fire.

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In the first set of pics that Jere posted, there are several squares formed up on the floors. Can someone explain what those might be for? Thanks
Those will be foundation/footers for support pillars in those large rooms. This picture of a part of that room after the floor has been poured shows buckets sitting in the concrete, and on top of those some of those boxes. Including the bucket the troweling maching is sitting on.



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I believe that is an egress window, somewhere to get out in case of an emergency. It is your second option in case of a fire.

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You are correct. Not technically a door, it is about 3' above the floor, but will be outfitted for emergency exit from the basement. There is no actual exterior access basement doors. This large window might be a zoning requirement, though I am not sure of that.
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I thought it might be support for the house, but then why form it. Why not just dig a deep hole and fill it. Apparently they are going to pour and create concrete pillars, rather than simply set steel posts on the floor. EDIT: I don't know. Went back and looked again. In one pic there are 5 squares in a row. Can't imagine why they would need that many columns. And they are different sizes.

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Still thinking about this. Could be the 3 center pillars are to support a large stone or brick fireplace. Maybe?

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I'm thinking the first floor sections are going to have concrete legs that fit into those squares in the basement floor.

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I noticed the boxes, footers line up with extra studding in the wall, basically center of the room. Appears that the studding and boxes line up in other areas of the basement.

It's hard to say what supports will be used, posts, posts built into wall, wall with extra studs where footer boxes are.

I was in a basement of a modular, fabricated home that two halves were pulled in and joined together. I did notice that it was free of support posts, it made for a nice basement.

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Winter is not the best time to start a building project, but I guess the trades have to fill their schedules. Yesterday they poured the concrete in the tube that had been set for under the garage floor.



After the pour the whole column is covered to preserve heat for curing, and presumably to shield from the weather predicted.

While I was there "inspecting" I noticed the walls away from the pillar all have ledges cast into them. I assume they will provide support for the garage floor:


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Winter is not the best time to start a building project, but I guess the trades have to fill their schedules. Yesterday they poured the concrete in the tube that had been set for under the garage floor.



After the pour the whole column is covered to preserve heat for curing, and presumably to shield from the weather predicted.

While I was there "inspecting" I noticed the walls away from the pillar all have ledges cast into them. I assume they will provide support for the garage floor:

Jere,

This is an interesting thread, building techniques change over time.

Wall sheeting is one, one by whatever width to Celotex, plywood to Rboard and now OSB is used frequently.

House wraps have evolved also, red rosin paper, tar paper and now the many variations of house wrap.

It will be interesting if the floor will be precast as BoWoggie has or poured in place. I'm thinking poured in place with the fill going in but then why have the column in the center.

I would also think that the fill should have been tamped in shorter lifts, IMO.

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The ledges you see are called haunches and very likely will have a steel beam placed across them. Then the steel beam will be used as the support for the garage floor concrete forms. The tube is part of the support structure for the edge of the garage concrete floor forms.
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Jere,

This is an interesting thread, building techniques change over time.

Wall sheeting is one, one by whatever width to Celotex, plywood to Rboard and now OSB is used frequently.

House wraps have evolved also, red rosin paper, tar paper and now the many variations of house wrap.

It will be interesting if the floor will be precast as BoWoggie has or poured in place. I'm thinking poured in place with the fill going in but then why have the column in the center.

I would also think that the fill should have been tamped in shorter lifts, IMO.

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Jere, Those wedges sticking out from the wall are called a haunch. It's reinforced concrete with steel for support.
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Wow, Flaken and I posted the same thing at the same time. LOL That happens on this forum.

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Wow, Flaken and I posted the same thing at the same time. LOL That happens on this forum.
Hmmmnn, what's that thing again about great minds? No worries though, I'm bottom of the barrel.
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