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Jere, I have been following this build from the beginning and really enjoying the build. This looks like the future of house building. Keep up the good work. I am in the local area (Ludwigs Corner area)Hope to run into you sometime in the future. . Herb
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Jere, I have been following this build from the beginning and really enjoying the build. This looks like the future of house building. Keep up the good work. I am in the local area (Ludwigs Corner area)Hope to run into you sometime in the future. . Herb
Sounds good Herb - I get around, should be an opportunity to spot each other somewhere around the area. I shop the hardware store, Frames, and Littles often enough.

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I'm interested is the garage floor, suppose they are going to set a beam on the center column and set precast floor?

It seems as the build is going real fast but consider construction time at the plant, transport, site prep, etc.

With the declining numbers of people entering the trades, this very well could be the way of the future.

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Well, this has been a very interesting learning experience for me. I do not believe there will be a precast floor in the garage. The garage itself was delivered as three practically hollow modules and set together on the foundations walls of the garage. You can see the garage where the entry sill is in this picture. The 'door' is still filled in and Tyvek covered. There is stone backfilled in the garage up to about a foot below the haunches, the sill, and the column. I suppose they could still get a central beam from the left end where the haunches are to the column which sets on the right side of that garage door sill. But, I now suspect the floor will be poured concrete and the haunches and column will be incorporated to prevent settling. But, I've been wrong on a few things already, so this will be a new building practice to me when I see it.



Still plenty of fill on site, and it will be needed to get the grade up where I think it ought to be on those foundation walls to make the setting look right.

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When my in-laws retired from farming and moved to town, they had a small modular home built. Nothing on this scale of course. Their house had siding on it. The house was mostly sided when it was delivered. If this house is to be sided, I am surprised than none is on yet. Time will tell I guess.

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They may have a header beam which is the portion above the garage opening to support the roof and king studs on the ends to hold the header beam up, already part of the section where the proposed garage is. Similar to this picture but only a two car opening, not a three car opening.
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When my in-laws retired from farming and moved to town, they had a small modular home built. Nothing on this scale of course. Their house had siding on it. The house was mostly sided when it was delivered. If this house is to be sided, I am surprised than none is on yet. Time will tell I guess.

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I am guessing but I imagine that your in-laws home was a two section ranch type of home. Long straight runs on the front and back, ends were sided once set together?


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Well, this has been a very interesting learning experience for me. I do not believe there will be a precast floor in the garage. The garage itself was delivered as three practically hollow modules and set together on the foundations walls of the garage. You can see the garage where the entry sill is in this picture. The 'door' is still filled in and Tyvek covered. There is stone backfilled in the garage up to about a foot below the haunches, the sill, and the column. I suppose they could still get a central beam from the left end where the haunches are to the column which sets on the right side of that garage door sill. But, I now suspect the floor will be poured concrete and the haunches and column will be incorporated to prevent settling. But, I've been wrong on a few things already, so this will be a new building practice to me when I see it.



Still plenty of fill on site, and it will be needed to get the grade up where I think it ought to be on those foundation walls to make the setting look right.

Jere,


Guessing once again but it appears that the drop in the foundation wall will accept the garage floor, the walk in entry door appears to be ganged with overhead door for this pour. Apparently there is a temporary wall that will be removed where the overhead door will go.


Still very interested in column reason, haunches, fill not being compacted in stages if it is poured.


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It seems very odd to me that the void for the garage door would extend under the walk in door. This is just a guess but......Maybe that is not a walk in door at all but simply framed that way temporarily for construction purposes. Gives workers access to the inside. At some point the temporary framing will be removed and reveal the entire void as garage door. Maybe one of you math wizards can take the width of that ladder, and using that measurement calculate the width of that void.

That concrete pillar in the garage still has me stumped. I know that different areas of the country have different building practices for a variety of reasons. When I first saw it formed up, I thought maybe it had something to do with a single post vehicle lift. After the pour, the post seemed to be solid concrete, so that was out.

This is why I could never have a new hose built. The waiting would drive me crazy. I would have to leave the country for a year, and hope it was done when I got back. Greg

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It seems very odd to me that the void for the garage door would extend under the walk in door. This is just a guess but......Maybe that is not a walk in door at all but simply framed that way temporarily for construction purposes. Gives workers access to the inside. At some point the temporary framing will be removed and reveal the entire void as garage door. Maybe one of you math wizards can take the width of that ladder, and using that measurement calculate the width of that void.

That concrete pillar in the garage still has me stumped. I know that different areas of the country have different building practices for a variety of reasons. When I first saw it formed up, I thought maybe it had something to do with a single post vehicle lift. After the pour, the post seemed to be solid concrete, so that was out.

This is why I could never have a new hose built. The waiting would drive me crazy. I would have to leave the country for a year, and hope it was done when I got back. Greg
A typical two car garage is 16 foot wide. I would think that void is about 17 foot wide. Enough room to install vertical studs to hold up the top header. Some new garages are 18 foot wide and 9 feet tall. My house built in 1963 has a 16 foot wide garage door and its 7 feet tall. And the garage is 22 foot deep and 24 feet wide.

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Pretty sure the overhead garage door and the pedestrian door beside it will both be at floor level. The void in the foundation wall for each of the two doors is at the same height. The opening that is currently being used for construction entrance is the top 3/4 of the pedestrian doorway. It might not be obvious in the picture, but you can see the dark of the garage below the module tyvek line.

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Joe made me aware of Jere's interesting thread and all of the speculation caught my curiosity as well.
So I took liberties with Jere's picture and copied the shadow of the ladder and superimposed it back onto the pic, next to the door.


It was hard to see in detail, so I cropped and enlarged it. I also stacked the ladder shadow twice.
Since it is the shadow the scale is not the same as what the rungs would be, but it gives a reference anyway.





If you look close you can see the king behind the ladder.






I then laid the shadow on it's side.










Well there you go.


My thought's, I agree with it being a temporary door opening since it is close to eight feet in height.
I'd guess it will be a single 18 foot roll up.
I also agree that due to zero compaction they will be pouring the slab and beams in a monolithic pour, over cast in foam forms, rebar & wire mesh included.


Just guessing.
fun thread, thanks Jere.


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Always good to hear opinions and conjecture. I am confident the front of the garage has a double wide opening for vehicles, and to the left of it, a single wide pedestrian door. This afternoon I stuck my head and camera through the slot for the overhead door and snapped two pictures. First to the left:



You can see the haunches on the left wall, the stone fill that was scooped in before the modules were set above, and the underside of the floor of the modules. That floor seems to me to be temporary, constructed of overlapping sheets of plywood on an inadequate floor joist system. I'd bet it will be removed at some point for a floor pour in there.

And, to the right, much the same, but with a view of the poured column which has some 2x bracing up to the floor which I believe is temporary.




Weather forecast for snow again Wednesday, not sure what they might be working on. And, to answer a question, I cannot see inside any of the living area to determine if there is a finished floor. But, I believe there is based on the website of the module manufacturer.

All for today, thanks for following my research project

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A typical two car garage is 16 foot wide. I would think that void is about 17 foot wide. Enough room to install vertical studs to hold up the top header. Some new garages are 18 foot wide and 9 feet tall. My house built in 1963 has a 16 foot wide garage door and its 7 feet tall. And the garage is 22 foot deep and 24 feet wide.

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The header has to be in place already to carry the roof load, I would assume that the header carries over the entry door also.


I think they may have went outside of the conventional building methods.


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Can't speak for anyone else but all these pics did was confuse me more. When my in-laws modular home was built, only the house was delivered in tact. The garage was completely built on site.

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