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post #181 of 226 Old 07-19-2019, 10:05 PM
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Sure is looking good. Must be having a pretty good time doing all this. Nice to build a new home just as you want it.
Really like that covered area in the picture. Nice to sit out there on a rainy drizzly day and relax. Sure wish I had such at my place.
Can see a lot of great landscaping projects for next year.

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Started out the day putting builder’s dump trailer back together. I noticed one shoe is missing it’s lining, been gone for awhile. I did see last week that one of the hub caps is also missing. I offered to do a full axle service but he politely turned it down. I’d be nervous to pull it at this point, knowing full well at least one brake is dead, and another wheel could fail at any time.

After finishing the trailer (repacking the bearings on the one wheel I did, installing new studs, installing wheel, and finally sequentially torquing everything down, I turned my attention back to insulation. I finished up in the garages where any wiring is, then buttoned it all up with lots of staples and neatness. All the print (except for maybe 5 small oddball pieces) faces same way, and all flaps overlap left over right - yes, I’m that anal - faces the same way. Only one that will ever know or even notice is me. Takes extra time, but it looks kind of cool. Until the drywall is on and nobody can tell or even care. Finished up the porch the same way, but more difficult to align everything. Very few full width pieces. Many had several inches cut off. Looks as good as it can, I guess. Ended up with maybe 5 square feet left over, if even that. I estimate maybe 875 sq ft or so. Guess I got it pretty close.

Next week the spray foam goes in.
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post #183 of 226 Old 07-22-2019, 06:19 PM Thread Starter
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Insulating this week. 5” of closed cell foam on exterior walls. 2.5” on wall between garage and house and on wall between house and porch. I might end up stacking cheap R13 glass atop the thin foam. Final number on the 5” should be between R30 and R35, and all sealed tight.
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post #184 of 226 Old 07-22-2019, 10:25 PM
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I always thought they brought the spray in foam out to be flush with the studs. Then had a special blade and sawed off any excess sticking out beyond the stud.
Must do it different these days.

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The walls between the garage and your living space are they cider block or just studs?

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post #186 of 226 Old 07-23-2019, 06:45 AM Thread Starter
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Pictured was just what they called the “first coat.” They do it in two stages. Not sure why.

The garage wall is just studs. The concrete in one of the pictures is poured basement wall. I jumped around a lot for the pictures. It is nice that they do the tub and shower, too. Again, Not sure why they hadn’t coated that one at all. They will be working on it until tomorrow...
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Pictured was just what they called the “first coat.” They do it in two stages. Not sure why.
I was confused. Thought you meant you were going to put the glass insulation over the "thin" spray on, because there was room for it.
There I go assuming again.

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Murray LT Model: 425618x48B, 18hp B&S, 42" deck, 2004, Hydro trany., foot control. My Mower
Murray RER, Model 30550H, 1999, 10 hp Tecumseh, 30” cut, single blade. My trimmer.
Murray, Noma Model: 633124X8, 12hp Tecumseh OHSK120, 33", 1997, Walk behind snow blower.
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Well, you aren’t wrong. Two of the walls (that border other insulated but I heated areas porch and garage), will only get 2.5” of foam, leaving about 3” of open space in the cavity (recall walls are 2x6 lumber). I’ll put the R13 glass in those cavities. Kind of cheating out a little there, because the spray foam is expensive and fiberglass is stupid cheap. We’ll have the benefit of airtight, along with higher R value for not much more. Sometimes I do weird stuff like that, but it saves like $500... Seeing as how just the upgrade to 5” of foam is like $4000, I think it’s a nice savings.
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I always thought they brought the spray in foam out to be flush with the studs. Then had a special blade and sawed off any excess sticking out beyond the stud.
Must do it different these days.
Yes they have a special tool for that, it's like a reel mower ( https://www.amazon.com/American-Lawn...43228714&psc=1 ) but air powered. I used one when I worked at the 18 wheeler trailer shop and we had to re-foam the refer walls.

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Well, you aren’t wrong. Two of the walls (that border other insulated but UNHEATED areas porch and garage), will only get 2.5” of foam, leaving about 3” of open space in the cavity (recall walls are 2x6 lumber). I’ll put the R13 glass in those cavities. Kind of CHEAPING out a little there, because the spray foam is expensive and fiberglass is stupid cheap. We’ll have the benefit of airtight, along with higher R value for not much more. Sometimes I do weird stuff like that, but it saves like $500... Seeing as how just the upgrade to 5” of foam is like $4000, I think it’s a nice savings.
Edited some typos...
Also, I forgot to mention about the trimming flush - insulator fellow did indeed say that they “grind off” what’s proud of the studs. I’m not sure how it’s done though, either with an abrasive wheel/belt or with a blade. I like to imagine it’ll be a blade due to potential dust generation from abrasives.
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I always thought they brought the spray in foam out to be flush with the studs. Then had a special blade and sawed off any excess sticking out beyond the stud.
Must do it different these days.




Generally when you see that it's from open cell foam. It takes up much more room and is usually pumped out more then trimmed flush. Closed cell is much more dense and generally does not fill the stud bays completely although you certainly can. Its generally cost prohibitive to go that route. Open cell is cheaper but has less R value per inch than closed cell which is more expensive.
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My home is all brick with no insulation in the walls or ceiling in the basement. It's 3000 sq ft rambler with a furnished basement. Two fireplaces. The garage is attached to the home but has a firewall between the garage and living space of the home all the way up to the roof. It was built in 1963. In 1963 there was no energy crisis. So my guess, they didn't insulate the walls only the attic. Even today, there's no energy crisis natural gas is so cheap for heating a home. We do have cold winters but not as cold up there where you are.

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There’s other methods to my madness as well for high R insulation. Often times the power goes out in a storm. Sometimes we’re not around when that happens. Better insulation will keep things from freezing longer.
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hand to hand things that keep things in longer. keep things out longer


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Well, this looks promising.
Drywall! Stacks and stacks of it!
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