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post #91 of 158 Old 04-18-2019, 12:36 PM
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I go for 5 to 6 inch size here because we freeze-dry them. Need the bigger size for that, plus the flavor is better when they get that size. We don't sell anything and the ones we give away are also the big ones. People love them around here.--- Different areas might have different wants.

Yesterday I did get a few radishes and turnips planted before the rain again. Ground was almost dry enough to word decent. Also dug and made some fresh horseradish. ( 2 pints), and got another tiller ready to go.

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Any one have a success using old carpet for weed barrier and mulch?
I suppose this can work but I prefer to use something that will actually break down and feed the soil like leaves or grass.

Leaves or grass will bring nightcrawlers up into your beds also; if you do raised beds. And that means worm castings which you cannot get better fertilizer.

I just spaded my raised bed today almost every shovelful had a couple nightcrawler. last year I used sphagnum moss on top. This year I think I'm going to use leaf mulch I have quite a bit in a pile.

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I have to agree with Country1966 on the leaves & grass. Here are a couple pictures of what tomatoes, and pepper plants that survived a torrential downpour earlier in the year, that wiped out about 1/4 of what I set out. I put about 6" of leaves around my tomatoes, but being short of leaves to do the rest, I went with grass taken from my yard. My neighbor who has a lawn service also provides a leaf pick-up service to his customers. Bringing leaves to me, saves him driving 1/4 around the city of Columbus, to dump those leaves as a private company compost facility. A win-win for both of us. Being his wife also gardens to sell produce to his upscale customers, she also now gets more than several loads of leaves, hence the reason I ran short.

I have a lot of grass to mow here, so might as well put it to use. Last year, I bought an older Mow & Vac, which works great for $200. It's sort of like making hay. mow one day,and either pick it up later that evening,when it dries, or, the next day. Then mulch around plants with it. Grass will suppress weeds for approx. 6-8 weeks, then needs dressed up. Leaves are good for all summer. I love the fact that I literally have to look for weeds. It also helps protect the soil and plants from heavy downpours, as far as saturating the soil. It will shed the heavy amount of water, yet let well enough down to keep the soil nice & moist. With the mat of leaves on that thick, I can walk out among the plants right after a heavy rain, and not sink in. And as he also mentioned, the soil if full of Red Worms, and Night crawlers that leave their castings, which is natures best fertilizer.

If you look back at post #85, you will see what is left of those leaves from last year. There is approx. 2-3 inches of broken down compost left. I plan to plant Peas,and Beans in that patch, probably next week. The plan is to use my Warren Hoe, to make a V row down through that compost, then sow the Peas. As they grow, I'll pull that compost in close around them. I'll also probably run leaves out of my stockpile through my little shredder next week, for some fines up close around the plants. I'll dress up further away, with grass taken from the lawn.

I realize that not everyone has the resources for leaves and grass that I do, or funds to devote to gathering up here at home, but it's not all that expensive, if you know where to shop. I've attached a picture of the recent purchase of another Mow & Vac I got a couple weeks ago at a local consignment auction. A pretty nice Agri-Fab Mow & Vac for $145. I saw a fellow start it the night before the auction, so I know it runs. The hose & boot that goes on a mower deck is inside the trailer. I took it off, before bringing it home.
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DJ54, That garden looks great and well setup.
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The weather has been less than cooperative for working outside, but I managed to get some tasks done late afternoons this week (My Library job runs from 6:30-1:00 on weekdays, except Fridays are 7-4). After picking up fencing supplies at Home Depot Wednesday I dug three post holes for the corners and gate of the west end of the garden extension. One corner was super easy, mostly loam and dirt, but I hit the jackpot with rocks trying to do the other two! I got the second corner hole to a satisfactory depth, but finally gave up on where I wanted post number three, a gate post, and dug the hole over by the first corner.

Thursday I bought more supplies and then got around to setting my PTL posts in Quikcrete fast setting cement. I never used this before as I always chose to set posts with bar-tamped rocks and dirt. Iím suitably impressed with the results from just dump in the dry mix, add water, and let it cure: they are in rock-solid! And it was on sale for $2 off per bag. The other posts I will be hammering in, steel, are like those seen above in DJ54ís garden. I love these over the flimsy green hen-yard type posts for their durability.

And today was try-to-prepare-the-asparagus-bed-between-raindrops day. This went smoothly enough, until the tiller began squealing (like last year). I got the bed close to done, happily, and mixed in the fertilizer and lime with a metal rake. Tonight and tomorrow we have heavy rain predicted which should get the amendments distributed.

So Easter Sunday, weather permitting, will be the planting of the crowns and fence completion day. I have all next week off from work and will build a gate and fix the tiller, among other activities.

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DJ54, That garden looks great and well setup.
Thanks, but all of the open gaps are where there were plants. 2+ inches of rain in about 30 minutes literally broke off, or, buried plants in the mud. It was a couple days, before I could even walk out there. By then it was too late to save anything, even if I could have.
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Any of you had problems with walnut tree leaves and tomato plants? Have read anything walnut will kill them or is that myth? I can probably get all the leaves ever needed but was always afraid of the hazard of getting walnut leaves.
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Any of you had problems with walnut tree leaves and tomato plants? Have read anything walnut will kill them or is that myth? I can probably get all the leaves ever needed but was always afraid of the hazard of getting walnut leaves.
I just googled your question and here's what came up apparently there is something to that.

https://www.ourstate.com/black-walnu...tomato-plants/

Don't use pine needles either because their acidic. I think maple tree leaves are the best from what I've read.

oak tree leaves take too long to break down
So they're not great for making leaf compost but they do break down eventually. would make it good topping you just don't want to work them into soil.
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That is why I have always been leery of getting leaves from random unknown sources. Fertilizers and weed killers in like kind grass cuttings could be just as harmful. We are what we eat.
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Any of you had problems with walnut tree leaves and tomato plants? Have read anything walnut will kill them or is that myth? I can probably get all the leaves ever needed but was always afraid of the hazard of getting walnut leaves.
A little off-topic but that link Country1966? posted probably shows the best example of what happened to my tomatoes last year. I blamed the humidity for the sudden fruit failure and started spraying fungicides on the plants, but it was probably the walnut tree in my garden that was the worst cause of problems. The tree is gone, as of two weeks or so ago, and yes, the roots will have to die off on their own: I suspected jugalone was going to poison my plants, but no article I had read showed the wilt damage!

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The 1st year I used black walnut leaf compost in my garden the cucumbers and pumpkins didn't set any fruit. The plants ran like crazy but no fruit. I've since omitted those leaves and haven't had that problem since.
They didn't effect the tom's tho, perhaps I didn't get the compost spread into their rows....

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I learned about 15 years ago about walnut tree leaves when it killed my tomatoes, also learned that they will harm your cauliflower too.
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When I was growing up,--My mom had gardens right up to the walnut tree trunks. ---Always had stuff growing there and Hostas grew right up beside the trunks as did other plants. The leaves/nuts etc. were plowed under and everything grew just fine.

I pick up a few leaves when I can get them and either plow them under or put them in a big compost pile. I don't have time to catch grass when I mow, so that is out for me. I did get an old agri-fab grass catcher with an 8hp Tech. motor on it, BUT the thing didn't have enough suction to do anything except plug the hose, so I dumped it in the junk pile.
30 years ago I had a little 5hp unit mounted behind the seat of my cc 147 and that thing would suck anything that mower kicked out, including rocks and twigs.
In the past years I had an old dixon z that had a fan that drove off the outside blade and had 2 bags hanging on the back. It did fair but plugged often.
I currently get horse manure/bedding from a guy down the road and that works the best! I pile it until fall then dump it on and turn it under. The areas where I do this stays loose most of the summer and the plants thrive there because the roots can go down without being stressed.
I toss a lot of triple 10, or 12, whatever I can get my hands on along with the manure/compost.
The 4.5 acres of gardens could use hundreds of tons of compost a year IF I could get it.----The more that I add the more the ground gets mellow.

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I pick up the grass after it has dried. It can be as early as later in the afternoon, or the next day. I just pick up what I can get to handy, without getting into tight corners. A good way to end my day, after working at whatever I did that day. 1-1/2 hours of ride & guide, semi-resting. I can pick up most of it in 2 loads, and I'm ready to stretch my legs after 45 minutes anyway. I just keep thinking of the time I'm saving from using a hoe, LOL...
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After the storm came through last weekend in PA it wiped out most of my plants I had in the garden, also took out both of my cherry trees, Getting to old to start over.
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