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post #241 of 346 Old 07-15-2019, 05:26 AM
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The garden was going great guns, and then the critters found it. Two weeks ago I discovered a young rabbit among the plants, and I went on a quest to shore up my defenses. I bought ‘Liquid Fence’ until my chicken wire arrived, and spent the 4th of July and following weekend securing the border. My cheap wire failed (got what I paid for) and the repellent was useless: I went out Friday to water and found the cukes had been chomped and the bunny staring out from under the peppers.

I was all set to buy better fencing (1” chicken wire vs 2”) when I saw another free loader, this time moving through the pumpkins: woodchuck! This explained the vast amount of damage the cukes had sustained. The little sucker (fairly young) struggled his fat body under the fence and waddled off to nearby woods. New wire won’t fix this. I found him in the beans later on and gave him a good scare (actually poked the critter with a pole) and was amazed at how he maneuvered out under the wire as he fled to the other side of the garden.

I won’t kill him (yet): I shot one years ago but it didn’t keep others away. I priced electric fence as my only true option and have piled up and weighted down logs, boards, and metal poles along the weakest sides of the perimeter but haven’t determined all aspects for electrifying the area. I’m also trying to get a refund on my “money back guarantee” for the repellent. At $24 the stuff should have done better.

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Sprinkle cayan pepper all over your crops, leaves and actual produce, every few days, and if it rains then again immediately after things dry out. My wife buys it in bulk off of Amazon. We probably go through 2 to 3 pounds of it a year, but it definitely does help keep the rodents and deer from eating the crops. Some birds don't seem bothered by it though, and they still can do damage to the tomatoes so we drape mesh screening over the tomato cages.

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Never planted that one before. Sounds like I need to try it. Tell Mikeinri how you grow corn and how easy it is.
Sounds like chrispbrown has it figured out. Here is what I do. I plant in rows so the tiller can go between them also. About 30-36 inch rows or so. Generally 5-6 rows 12-20 feet long. The plantings will have 5 to 10 dozen to harvest at these sizes. You can make several planings a couple weeks apart or so up to about two and a half months before frost. 70ish to 80ish day corn varieties are the best. I go for a harvest stand of of 8" to 15" apart in the row. You can plant thicker than that but thin it out to the 8-15. Lots of times I just plant that spacing and not have to thin. Get nice ears that way. I plant seed about 1" to 1 1/2 inches deep. I use commercial fertilizer like 6-24-24, it says on the bag. There is also 5-10-10 or 5-20-20, etc. Get from Farm Bureau or a farm fertilizer chemical business. Also get urea, the nitrogen, from them or from Rural King. Spread this fertilizer and nitrogen like you are salting the ground or along the row. Work it in. May have to put the urea on a second time before the tassels come out if the corn is starting to get yellow. It is really easy to grow. The main thing is use fertilizer and keep weeds and grass out and it has to have a source of fertilizer and nitrogen or it will fail. The bottom line is plant and fertilizer it. (water of course if needed when planting and throughout)
Hope this helps also along with chrispbrown. I get seeds from Harris Seeds. They have a larger corn variety chart that tells a lot about their varieties.

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Sprinkle cayan pepper all over your crops, leaves and actual produce, every few days, and if it rains then again immediately after things dry out. My wife buys it in bulk off of Amazon. We probably go through 2 to 3 pounds of it a year, but it definitely does help keep the rodents and deer from eating the crops. Some birds don't seem bothered by it though, and they still can do damage to the tomatoes so we drape mesh screening over the tomato cages.
I've heard that is some good stuff to use.
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cayenne pepper seems to help some in my garden but I rarely use it, I see some rabbits but they usually let me alone.
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Thanks guys, that's great info!

I grow more weeds than grass lately (mostly clover, nutsedge and dandelions)...

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I put in a lot of cow manure from the cattle farm across the road this year to try to get the soil in better condition than it was. This introduced spiney pigweed into the garden. If you don't have to deal with spiney pigweed consider yourself lucky...it is an evil little plant. Hopefully I can get rid of it before next year. The buckwheat has helped but I still have a fair amount coming through.

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Corn looks great! I made the mistake of planting too much Silver Queen corn all at once and it matured all at once. Now I space it out in 2-3 week intervals. Much more manageable now.
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The garden was going great guns, and then the critters found it. Two weeks ago I discovered a young rabbit among the plants, and I went on a quest to shore up my defenses. I bought ‘Liquid Fence’ until my chicken wire arrived, and spent the 4th of July and following weekend securing the border. My cheap wire failed (got what I paid for) and the repellent was useless: I went out Friday to water and found the cukes had been chomped and the bunny staring out from under the peppers.

I was all set to buy better fencing (1” chicken wire vs 2”) when I saw another free loader, this time moving through the pumpkins: woodchuck! This explained the vast amount of damage the cukes had sustained. The little sucker (fairly young) struggled his fat body under the fence and waddled off to nearby woods. New wire won’t fix this. I found him in the beans later on and gave him a good scare (actually poked the critter with a pole) and was amazed at how he maneuvered out under the wire as he fled to the other side of the garden.

I won’t kill him (yet): I shot one years ago but it didn’t keep others away. I priced electric fence as my only true option and have piled up and weighted down logs, boards, and metal poles along the weakest sides of the perimeter but haven’t determined all aspects for electrifying the area. I’m also trying to get a refund on my “money back guarantee” for the repellent. At $24 the stuff should have done better.
I used tent stakes to hold my chicken wire to the ground. Of course the groundhogs dug under the last time a had a garden (3 years ago) but I sniped off 14 of those buggers that year. There is a chestnut "orchard" on the back side of my land that the guy only mows twice a summer. so they come from there and under my sheds.

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Sprinkle cayan pepper all over your crops, leaves and actual produce, every few days, and if it rains then again immediately after things dry out. My wife buys it in bulk off of Amazon. We probably go through 2 to 3 pounds of it a year, but it definitely does help keep the rodents and deer from eating the crops. Some birds don't seem bothered by it though, and they still can do damage to the tomatoes so we drape mesh screening over the tomato cages.
Great advice, thank you. My question here is “does the pepper taste transfer to the vegetables?” I’ve got a good sprayer and I’ve see some recipes for liquid cayenne concoctions, but don’t want to add pepper flavor to the plants...

Birds have not been an issue, yet (that’s what I told someone last week about the woodchuck).

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I used tent stakes to hold my chicken wire to the ground. Of course the groundhogs dug under the last time a had a garden (3 years ago) but I sniped off 14 of those buggers that year. There is a chestnut "orchard" on the back side of my land that the guy only mows twice a summer. so they come from there and under my sheds.
Yes, I had to pop one off that had taken most of my pumpkin plants one year. I tried a Havahart trap but the garden was much tastier than the bait. Nature is amazing- we haven’t seen these rodents in about 20 years, and the year following our replanting a garden *poof* they arrive by magic!

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No, the cayan pepper powder, or sprays made from it don't absorb into the vegetables. That's why you have to apply it fairly often, more so if it rains.

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I have an electric fence that so far is keeping them at bay. I oversized the charger for the size of my garden partially because I have plans that might require a larger fence in the future and partially because I want the coons to remember this garden isn't worth the pain. Up until last year I never had an issue with anything eating our vegetables other than corn worms. Last year the coons hit it one night and did a little damage. At the new house the cattle farmer had warned me that the coons come out of the woodwork when the corn comes in.

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I haven't grown anything in the garden in a number of years, mainly because my tiller broke, and then I just kept missing opportunities to plant on a reasonable schedule.

I have seen woodchucks (groundhogs) in the neighborhood in the past, actually saw one go under my shed a few weeks ago.

We've had success in the past with tomatoes, green beans, summer squash, and zucchini. Not much luck with pumpkins, and zero luck with peppers or corn.

The past few seasons that we planted, I mainly focused on tomatoes, as that was the only thing doing well. The squash and zucchini we're hit by a white moldy looking substance on the leaves, and no fruit/vegetables grew on those plants.

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Corn looks great! I made the mistake of planting too much Silver Queen corn all at once and it matured all at once. Now I space it out in 2-3 week intervals. Much more manageable now.
Spreading out sweet corn plantings makes it great to have corn throughout the summer. I'll have 7-8 plantings usually.
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I haven't grown anything in the garden in a number of years, mainly because my tiller broke, and then I just kept missing opportunities to plant on a reasonable schedule.

I have seen woodchucks (groundhogs) in the neighborhood in the past, actually saw one go under my shed a few weeks ago.

We've had success in the past with tomatoes, green beans, summer squash, and zucchini. Not much luck with pumpkins, and zero luck with peppers or corn.

The past few seasons that we planted, I mainly focused on tomatoes, as that was the only thing doing well. The squash and zucchini we're hit by a white moldy looking substance on the leaves, and no fruit/vegetables grew on those plants.

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Lots of people just have tomatoes and nothing else. THEY say never plant toms in the same place as before or wait a period of time. I've seen some plant in the same place year after year and have the most perfect toms. Not me! If there is a disease to get mine will get it no matter where I plant. The best luck I have is using grass for mulch around the plants.
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