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post #16 of 30 Old 07-18-2018, 08:31 AM
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The deer are eating most of the plants in our garden, including the tomatoes.
A fence is in our future.
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A fence to keep deer in or out.

Deer can easily jump a 8 ft fence in this area.

What kind of fence are you thinking about.

I seen a gizmo, think it was also sold on Amazon and some co-0p's that has a automatic or blinking red eye at night for deer control and cost is around $15
Think it was called nite-guard.
it's solor charged.

A double fence (two fences about 4 ft apart) will deter deer jumping a fence.

In my area a bullet will also deter them.
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post #17 of 30 Old 07-18-2018, 03:39 PM
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Re: losing green tomotoes....

Current thinking is a 6 ft chain link, re-cycled dog kennels.
2 sides are bounded by shrubs, and the 3rd by the house.
1 short side has easy access.
Figured if I had to make it higher I could add sticks in the top to extend the visual size.

As for a more permanent solution, these are the wife's "pets" ie, she feeds them, so that would be very expensive venison.

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Yeah. The wife's 'pets' thing. Mine has plastic kiddie pools around for them to drink from. Makes sure the water's freshened from time to time. I believe she has some of them named. She's a serious critter lover. The garden area has a six foot chain link surround, as are the two gates. I have yet to see any evidence of them jumping. Possible, I'm sure. Put I now have a secure mechanical lock on both gates. As long as they don't grow opposable hooves, this may keep (at least them) out of the garden.
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post #19 of 30 Old 07-19-2018, 08:43 AM
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Something a LOT less expensive, and labor intensive is a hedge fence of Sunflowers. I plant 12-14 rows of Sunflowers, in a 36" width around the garden. I use both the tall White Stripe, and Black Oiler's, to make a nice thick "fence". Just make as many angled entrances as you need to access the garden. Angle them in the opposite direction, as the Deer travel, and they'll walk right passed it.. It may be too late this year, but you can still try. I buy the seeds intended for bird feed at TSC, comes in 5-7 lb bags. That is enough to go around my 80' X 110' garden for 2 years+.

I did this 5-6 years ago, after reading this suggestion in a gardening forum. The theory is, a deer will not jump over anything it cannot see the other side of. They will pass through, and browse on some, but not enough to hurt anything. I found, once the tall Sunflowers get higher, and thick for the Deer to see through, and over, they stopped entering the garden. A of of the plus's, they really attract the pollinators, and adds some organic matter to the garden, and no fence to mow/trim/spray around the rest of the year.. I've cut the stalks after the have died, and ran them through the chipper/shredder to mulch over my Asparagus patch, or. just blow them back on the garden to rot down over the winter.

If you have a push planter, use the sweet corn plate to plant them. If no planter, you could just scatter them by hand, and mix in the soil a bit raking the surface with a pitch fork. I like to plant them right before a rain, and they're not long coming up. If you have a thin spot, you can always rough the ground up, and scatter more seed.

You may get a few volunteers next season, but they are easily removed with a hoe, or cultivator when small. Birds will work on them when the seeds are ripe, and you'll get some volunteers during the growing season. If they come up late, frost kills them, so no problem.
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Re: losing green tomotoes....

DJ,

That is a good and very interesting idea, but I suspect we are in different leagues when it comes to gardening.

Our garden is a strip of land between our house and the border, about 12 ft wide by 42 ft long, at least 1/2 of it is raspberries, blueberries and strawberries.

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Sounds good:

If deer cannot see what's on other side they might not enter.

Never heard that one but sounds reasonable.
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Take a gander at this one.
https://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...D_P7815_072618

$23 free shipping.
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I like the idea of the solid signal one. For now, the gates are locked so that no large critters can get in anymore. Now wife said there's anew issue. I hate this. The broccoli really started to pop the last week or so. She culled about 6 or better from the plants. Only to find them worm infested!! What the heck? Never had that before. Little green ones with white stripes on their sides. Will now be looking into some kind of broccoli pest control. Dang. What a loss.
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I like the idea of the solid signal one. For now, the gates are locked so that no large critters can get in anymore. Now wife said there's anew issue. I hate this. The broccoli really started to pop the last week or so. She culled about 6 or better from the plants. Only to find them worm infested!! What the heck? Never had that before. Little green ones with white stripes on their sides. Will now be looking into some kind of broccoli pest control. Dang. What a loss.
If you didn't ever soak them in salt brine, for 20-30 minutes before consuming, they may have always been there before,and you just didn't notice.
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I like the idea of the solid signal one. For now, the gates are locked so that no large critters can get in anymore. Now wife said there's anew issue. I hate this. The broccoli really started to pop the last week or so. She culled about 6 or better from the plants. Only to find them worm infested!! What the heck? Never had that before. Little green ones with white stripes on their sides. Will now be looking into some kind of broccoli pest control. Dang. What a loss.
So the worms hit after you locked the gates.
Unlock the gates and see if the worms leave.

You might need to start watching your stool. You might have to worm yourself because you have probably been eating worms for quite awhile if they were there before you locked the gates.

Yep, gardening can be a pain in the AXE, I'm headed out to my garden now to do battle with squash bugs.
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Re: losing green tomotoes....

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I like the idea of the solid signal one. For now, the gates are locked so that no large critters can get in anymore. Now wife said there's anew issue. I hate this. The broccoli really started to pop the last week or so. She culled about 6 or better from the plants. Only to find them worm infested!! What the heck? Never had that before. Little green ones with white stripes on their sides. Will now be looking into some kind of broccoli pest control. Dang. What a loss.
Aw worms are said to be great protein.. I remember years ago it was rumored that one of the major fast food burger doodles was said to have incorporated worms into their hamburger meat. They denied it of course but couldn't explain when you cut a "Big ***" in half it crawled in opposite directions..go figure
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Yep, about worms, high in protein, etc, recent news stories about using earth worm castings (poop) as anti-aging instead of Botax treatments.

Search or here is a example.

https://www.greensations.com/Earthwo...am-p/fbmwb.htm

Might even anti-age from the inside out.
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A friend said he wuz goin' fishin' I asked if he had worms. He replied Yep! Going anyway...."
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DJ54. You said to soak it in brine? What does that do? Either make them leave or pickle 'em?
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It makes them come out. Apparently burns their skin, because they usually come out wiggling. Within a few minutes, it will kill them. Even at that, most sites on preserving call to break down into 1" crowns, just in case they get wedged in, or die before they can escape.

Even though I've looked pieces over pretty close after breaking down into 1" crowns, a couple of times, I've found a few floating, after blanching it to freeze. If I do, I recheck them after cooling it off, plunging in ice water. I don't recall seeing any at that point.
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